# Liz And Dick: New Lifetime Linsday Lohan Film - Hysterically Funny Review **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 17, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351 "2012-11-17T21:50:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/41 "2012-11-27T01:49:51Z")
It doesn’t take a lot of talent to play a teenage girl. There’ve been a lot of talented teen actresses. Very few make it as adults. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/42 "2012-11-27T02:30:47Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It doesn’t take a lot of talent to play a teenage girl. There’ve been a lot of talented teen actresses. Very few make it as adults. Which is why I said decent to good. She certainly wasn’t poised to become the next Meryl Streep, but I never considered her **bad**. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/43 "2012-11-27T02:43:50Z")
Huh, they cast they guy who played [Wolfgang West](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCzO-t8UazI)as Richard Burton? That’s just weird. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/44 "2012-11-27T04:21:11Z")
We took the _Challenger Deep_ option. We couldn’t hold our breath longer than that. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/45 "2012-11-27T04:45:25Z")
There was never no way, no how that this movie venture was going to turn out well. Regardless of her history and reputation, there was no reason in the world any serious film maker would cast Ms. Lohan as Elizabeth Taylor. The producer is a schmuck for trying to pull of such a shenanigan with a straight face and she, poor darling, is a dumbass for going along with it. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/46 "2012-11-27T05:28:53Z")
My point is only that, unlike the reviewer, we should not be putting this fiasco on Lohan’s shoulders. It’s no surprise she isn’t good in it, but it would take a supremely talented actress to compensate from the other errors in casting, script writing, directing, and editing. It appears the producers couldn’t find (didn’t know they should find) or afford that actress. ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/47 "2012-11-27T13:32:45Z")
I have a handful of Welsh friends, and they are up in arms about the film not because of Lohan, but rather because the portrayal of Richard Burton. One of the comments that struck me as especially funny was, “Look at it from our side, You have thousands of bad actresses. We have had one great Welsh actor who has gained worldwide fame, and you do this to him.” ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/48 "2012-11-27T13:58:41Z")
Can any of us say, with certainty, we’d have fared better, if we’d been pushed into the bread earner position, when still a child? By two parents who are the epitome of ‘hot messes’ themselves. To then have fame while so young, your parents dysfunction play out in public, in a town ready to eat you alive. Enough money to send the marriage into a truly ugly divorce. Drug problems, jail time, drinking and driving, hounded by paparazzi. Eek, it’s not a life I’d survive. Yeah, she’s made a lot of bad choices, but I can find it in my heart to forgo slagging on her, she’s still so young. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/49 "2012-11-27T14:47:30Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > My point is only that, unlike the reviewer, we should not be putting this fiasco on Lohan’s shoulders. It’s no surprise she isn’t good in it, but it would take a supremely talented actress to compensate from the other errors in casting, script writing, directing, and editing. It appears the producers couldn’t find (didn’t know they should find) or afford that actress. This may be true but no review is going to include the line “Struggling against a poor cast, script and direction, Lohan gives her best and tries to shine as Ms. Taylor…” She put forth a terrible performance in a terrible film. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/50 "2012-11-27T16:07:16Z")
Today’s gossip headline: Lindsay devastated by bad reviews. That girl has lost touch with reality, if she ever had it to start with. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/51 "2012-11-27T18:19:00Z")
> [@Rollo\_Tomasi](#): > > A true superstar like Brad Pitt or George Clooney might not do it, but a B-lister? Clooney’s last publicized appearance fee was $600,000.00 I don’t see why people are all over Lohan for cashing in on appearance fees. It’s legitimate income and nothing to sneer at. Hardly whoring. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/52 "2012-11-27T18:27:40Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Today’s gossip headline: Lindsay devastated by bad reviews. That girl has lost touch with reality, if she ever had it to start with. It’s worse than that. The story I read said it was the _first_ movie she did which got bad reviews. Umm, _I Know Who Killed Me_ is 9% at RT. _Georgia Rule_ is 17%, _Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen_ is 13%, etc. She hasn’t had a major role in a decent movie since _Mean Girls_. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/53 "2012-11-27T18:28:46Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s certainly possible. She might be willing to show up for a low price if the travel and expenses are paid, and she assumes there will be drugs at the party. I felt sorry for her at one point, but she just keeps on digging that hole. I can see a long career for her portraying herself as a victim as she continues her descent. I think you’re really underestimating what people will pay. The Kardashians make tons of money for just showing up at clubs for an hour-- even the lower level Kardashians. [Kim is reported to get $300k for a New Years club appearance in Vegas.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/kim-kardashian-new-years-eve-las-vegas_n_2194082.html) Is Lohan as popular as the Kardashians are right now? No. But if you could make $25,000 and get a free trip to Vegas for a weekend (where you probably get to stay in an amazing suite). . .and all you have to do is stand in the VIP section, wave at the peons, and drink with your friends for 3 hours. . . you’d probably do it, too. And [if Snooki can get $25k](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/fashion/10snooki.html?_r=0), I’m sure Lohan can, too. Heck, even no names from “The Love of Ray Jay 2” make a few grand for club appearances. ---
**Author:** ![Rollo\_Tomasi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/58956e/32.png) [@Rollo\_Tomasi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rollo_Tomasi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/54 "2012-11-27T18:29:29Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > Clooney’s last publicized appearance fee was $600,000.00 > > I don’t see why people are all over Lohan for cashing in on appearance fees. It’s legitimate income and nothing to sneer at. Hardly whoring. See, there you go. I don’t get the problem with appearance fees either. Like I said, it’s very common. The comparisons to prostitution are absurd. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/55 "2012-11-27T18:34:11Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > It’s worse than that. The story I read said it was the _first_ movie she did which got bad reviews. > > Umm, _I Know Who Killed Me_ is 9% at RT. _Georgia Rule_ is 17%, _Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen_ is 13%, etc. She hasn’t had a major role in a decent movie since _Mean Girls_. Was **she** criticized, or the movie though? Just skimming reviews of Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen most of the reviews either barely mention her performance, or mildly praise her while tearing the movie as a whole a new one. She’s been in several bad movies, but I’m not sure that her **acting** , specifically, has even been attacked this badly. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/56 "2012-11-27T18:39:06Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I think you’re really underestimating what people will pay. The Kardashians make tons of money for just showing up at clubs for an hour-- even the lower level Kardashians. [Kim is reported to get $300k for a New Years club appearance in Vegas.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/kim-kardashian-new-years-eve-las-vegas_n_2194082.html) Is Lohan as popular as the Kardashians are right now? No. But if you could make $25,000 and get a free trip to Vegas for a weekend (where you probably get to stay in an amazing suite). . .and all you have to do is stand in the VIP section, wave at the peons, and drink with your friends for 3 hours. . . you’d probably do it, too. And [if Snooki can get $25k](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/fashion/10snooki.html?_r=0), I’m sure Lohan can, too. Heck, even no names from “The Love of Ray Jay 2” make a few grand for club appearances. I suppose I am having a hard time dealing with a world where Kim Kardashian gets $300K for showing up at a party. But I’m sure it’s real. And yeah, I’d do it too for that kind of money. I’ve done worse for less. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/57 "2012-11-27T18:43:49Z")
If you click on the Snooki link, they explain how much money she makes for the club: > [@](#): > > By this rough accounting, Snooki’s $25,000 fee brought in an additional $259,406 in revenue for LAX. Now, a big Vegas club on New Years Eve is going to charge way more for. . . well, everything than a club at Rutgers would even on its best night. So, if they are in fact paying Kim $300,000, you can assume the club plans to make a few million that night-- in which case, she’s well worth the fee. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/58 "2012-11-27T22:40:50Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > Was **she** criticized, or the movie though? Just skimming reviews of Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen most of the reviews either barely mention her performance, or mildly praise her while tearing the movie as a whole a new one. She’s been in several bad movies, but I’m not sure that her **acting** , specifically, has even been attacked this badly. Umm, you bet. For _I Know Who Killed Me_, 3 of it’s then-record 8 Razzie wins were for LL: as Worst Actress. (Twice. She played twins, again. Oops, spoiler.) Plus Worst Screen Couple. (For her twin roles.) It was up against _Norbit_, so, yeah, it was that bad. If you win 3 Razzies, you aren’t a virgin anymore for bad acting reviews. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351/59 "2012-11-28T01:13:46Z")
Ya know the only Lohan film I’ve ever seen was the one that made her a star, _Mean Girls_, and I found that a huge disappointment. It wasn’t terrible, it just wasn’t that good either. It wanted to be smart. edgy & cynical like \*Heathers \*but also smart, sweet & fun like _Clueless_, so instead it wound up being an uneven, unsmart, mish-mash of genres that ultimately wasn’t much more than a lightweight teen comedy. And that’s the thing, Lohan was fine in it, but anyone could have been. It wasn’t a tough role. Anyway, all I could think of while watching _Liz & Dick_ was how Lohan literally can’t act. At all. She gave the exact same performance as in _Mean Girls_. She reads her lines like an ignorant teenage girl talks- too fast, with no feeling nor believability. Ya know, the exact same way she talks in real life! I felt sorrow for the other actors in this, cause most of their performances were ok (for a Lifetime original movie at least). I hope Lohan put at least some of her paycheck for this someplace other than up her nose… 😃 ---
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LiLo’s [8 stages of grief](http://www.eonline.com/news/365882/liz-dick-presents-a-gif-guide-to-the-eight-stages-of-grief-starring-lindsay-lohan-as-every-stage-of-grief) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-and-dick-new-lifetime-linsday-lohan-film-hysterically-funny-review/641351.md?page=4)