# Liz Phair's New Album
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [June 25, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374 "2003-06-25T21:40:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 15
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### Author:  [@Unix\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unix_Geek)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/1 "2003-06-25T21:40:10Z")
So Liz Phair has a new album out. Has anyone already bought it? If so wadja think?
PS Favorite Liz Phair Lyrics:
It’s nice to be liked, but it is better by far to get paid.
There’s no need for Lucifer to fall if he had learned to keep his mouth shut.
Because secretly I’m timid.
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### Author:  [@Lisa-go-Blind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lisa-go-Blind)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/2 "2003-06-25T21:59:40Z")
I’m not a Liz Phair fan, but[Pitchforkmedia](http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/p/phair_liz/liz-phair.shtml) (I know, I know), gave the new album a solid 0.0.
Sorry for intruding, but I read the review this morning and it kind of stuck with me.
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### Author:  [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/3 "2003-06-25T22:05:16Z")
The New York Times panned it pretty hard as well.
> **[MUSIC; Liz Phair's Exile in Avril-ville (Published 2003)](https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/22/arts/music-liz-phair-s-exile-in-avril-ville.html)**
>
> Meghan O'Rourke reviews Liz Phair's album titled Liz Phair; photos (M)
(free registration required).
Oh well, it’s too bad because _Exile in Guyville_ is such a phenomenal album. I’ll probably buy this one too, just because. I saw the video this morning on VH1 and it was quite poppy but not intolerably so.
Favorite Liz Phair line is probably “I want all that stupid old shit/Like letters and sodas.”
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### Author:  [@japatlgt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/japatlgt)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/4 "2003-06-25T22:27:21Z")
She must be running low on funds.
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### Author:  [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/5 "2003-06-25T23:12:19Z")
All I’ve heard from it is the cut they’ve been playing on the radio and so far my thought is that the album better come with a handwritten apology.
I was so excited to hear about a new album, too ☹
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### Author:  [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/6 "2003-06-25T23:20:00Z")
I caught a magazine article saying that the same people who produced this new album product Avril Lavigne.
_sigh_
Exile to Guyville is still one of my faves.
“I can feel it in my bones, I’m gonna spend another year alone”
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### Author:  [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/7 "2003-06-25T23:22:42Z")
product? _ahem_ PRODUCED.
Apparently they produced my preview abilities as well. Jesus.
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### Author:  [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/8 "2003-06-25T23:30:48Z")
She was on Leno last night with a song that was truly unmemorable.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/9 "2003-06-25T23:42:39Z")
If anyone’s curious, all the critics I’ve read have really savaged this album.
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### Author:  [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/10 "2003-06-26T00:14:50Z")
I bought it last night. I’ve listened to it three times. It will not be necessary for me to retire my copy of **Exile in Guyville**. Let me get back to you after I’ve listened to it a couple more times.
(_Entertainment Weekly_ gave it a fairly positive review.)
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### Author:  [@zen101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zen101)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/11 "2003-06-26T02:14:50Z")
Favorite line was “It’s true that i stole your lighter and it’s also true that i lost the map. but when you said that I wasn’t worth talking to I had to take your word on that.”.
Also referring to someone as “fucking like a volcano” is pretty damn vivid in a great way.
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### Author:  [@schplebordnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schplebordnik)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/12 "2003-06-26T02:49:39Z")
I’m going to see her in concert next month. Will be interesting to see if she flogs the new or old stuff. NYTimes was pretty brutal on her new album.
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### Author:  [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/13 "2003-06-26T15:45:38Z")
Yeah, I don’t always listen to [pitchforkmedia.com](http://pitchforkmedia.com), since they’re extremely snobby, but 0.0 is pretty solid. I’m wary. And then after hearing that the Matrix not only produced, but wrote at least one song on the album, I don’t think I’ll exactly be seeking out tracks from this one.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/14 "2003-06-26T16:12:55Z")
Looks like it was four songs, actually.
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### Author:  [@Misha77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misha77)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/liz-phairs-new-album/184374/15 "2003-06-26T17:47:19Z")
I’ve heard “Why Can’t I”, and I was pretty horrified. I love Liz Phair, but I never would have recognized it as her. I hope that this pop thing works for her, but if that first single is any indication, I won’t be buying this album.