# Lo! How the mighty have fallen.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 10, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593 "2013-11-10T19:50:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/41 "2013-11-11T03:46:39Z")

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I’m sure as hell no fan of Billy Fucking Graham, but let’s see what the OP looks like when he turns 95.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/42 "2013-11-11T03:49:31Z")

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Looks like Rev. Graham has fallen into some bad company. I’m hoping he looks old and tired because he tried to exorcise the whole sorry lot.

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/43 "2013-11-11T04:06:37Z")

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Is that a feeding tube coming out of BG’s collar?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/44 "2013-11-11T06:48:49Z")

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I don’t see any reason to assume Graham would have risen up in righteous indignation over being sitted with a crowd of ethically challenged politicians if he was younger. Back when he was in his prime, he was able to stomach the likes of Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/45 "2013-11-11T08:04:02Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Billy Graham is one of the few evangelicals that is often actually praised on this board.

I have _no_ idea why. An anti-gay, anti-semite and a friend of Nixon, I see no reason to praise him just because he let the coloured folks into his revival tent (and their money into his pockets, no doubt) and voted Democrat.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/46 "2013-11-11T12:29:34Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> Hmm. Figured everyone understood the context. My bad.
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> But I’ll let [Fred Clark](http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2013/11/09/worth-1000-words-the-awful-state-of-american-evangelical-christianity-after-billy-graham/) do the talking:

Seems like just a wee bit of projection in that analysis.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/47 "2013-11-11T13:15:26Z")

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If I make it to 95 years old I’ll be pretty damned impressed with myself no matter what I look like or who comes for a slice of cake.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/48 "2013-11-11T13:19:21Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> If I make it to 95 years old I’ll be pretty damned impressed with myself no matter what I look like or who comes for a slice of cake.

I would be impressed as well.

I’d _at least smile for the camera_…or AT THE VERY LEAST not scowl…

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/49 "2013-11-11T13:42:35Z")

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> [@Meatros](#):
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> I would be impressed as well.
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> I’d _at least smile for the camera_…or AT THE VERY LEAST not scowl…

Why?  
I’m not close to 95 yet, and I tend to have a disapproving look in photos. Mostly because when I smile I look simple.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/50 "2013-11-11T14:20:03Z")

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> [@KarlGauss](#):
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> Is that a feeding tube coming out of BG’s collar?

Yes, and Palin looks like she still has some of him stuck in her teeth.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/51 "2013-11-11T14:29:46Z")

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> [@Meatros](#):
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> I would be impressed as well.
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> I’d _at least smile for the camera_…or AT THE VERY LEAST not scowl…

Yeah, what an asshole.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/52 "2013-11-11T16:01:54Z")

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This picture was taken right before the pillow fight. You can tell because Billy has his game face on.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/53 "2013-11-11T16:11:17Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Could be, but I am (very fortunately) not overly familiar with the appearance of Fox News commentators.
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> Who’s the chinless geezer on the far left?

[Here’s a picture of him as a younger man.](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130812224002/powerlisting/images/5/54/Goomba_Movie.jpg)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/54 "2013-11-11T16:13:16Z")

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The years have not been kind. They seldom are.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/55 "2013-11-11T16:35:47Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> This picture was taken right before the pillow fight. You can tell because Billy has his game face on.

Do they try to smother each other with pillows?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/56 "2013-11-11T16:48:42Z")

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**user\_hostile** , I’m on board. Billy Graham had the integrity to keep his message apolitical when he was active. Now through his son, he’s been co-opted by the right wing, implying that conservatism and Christianity are BFF. The religious left exists. Moreover, a church should be a place where anybody can feel comfortable - not that they have to pass some litmus test.

**Fear Itself** said it better.

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/57 "2013-11-11T20:04:51Z")

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[QUOTE=Fred Clark]  
a voiceless prop called upon to lend a sheen of respectability to the likes of Donald Trump, Sarah Palin, and Rupert Murdoch and his Fox News lackeys.  
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Huh, I recognised Palin and Murdoch but had to go back to see the Donald there too. I suppose I didn’t recognise him because his head parasite was being unusually docile in that photo.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/58 "2013-11-11T20:26:12Z")

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> [@Nancarrow](#):
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> Huh, I recognised Palin and Murdoch but had to go back to see the Donald there too. I suppose I didn’t recognise him because his head parasite was being unusually docile in that photo.

Yeah. I guess that the dressing course he put it through is finally starting to pay off.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/59 "2013-11-12T12:22:14Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> The religious left exists.

It may exist - but does it exist anywhere _near_ the space occupied by the SBC?

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lo-how-the-mighty-have-fallen/673593/60 "2013-11-12T12:39:40Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> None of the mighty in that picture have fallen. All of them are either standing or sitting.

…and I’m not going to hazard a guess as to how many of them can’t get up…

=d&r=

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