# Loach is a dickhead fucking cop

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 14, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672 "2006-09-14T13:03:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 11

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/201 "2006-09-15T19:14:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Crotalus]  
But **Loach** , what about your mythical quota?!? I fail to see how you can possibly violate the rights of a sufficient number of raving nutcases like **Eleusis** at that rate. Shape up, man.  
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Quotas are illegal in New Jersey. However performance objectives are not. Try and figure that one out. I can’t complain too much because if we write 10 a month they leave us alone. It could be higher. You might ask why any tickets at all? Well we have been hired and are paid to enforce the laws, including the motor vehicle laws. It is a unique job in that most of the time you are your own boss on the road unless sent on a call. TPTB like to see some evidence that you are not just reading the newspaper but are on the road patrolling. There is no other way to quantify the amount of work we are doing. Some supervisors think it is more important than others. Like I said its part of the job. Not my favorite part but I did take the job so I take the good with the bad. Otherwise I could have stayed chained to my cubicle. bleech.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/202 "2006-09-15T19:17:16Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Well, **Loach** only writes 10-15 tickets a month, but I’m sure the number of drivers pistol-whipped or clubbed, the number of drivers arrested on false charges, and the number of drivers forced to give sexual favors in exchange for freedom, is much higher.  
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Prove it! You don’t have that on tape do you?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/203 "2006-09-15T19:28:53Z")

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**Loach** , glad to hear your little girl is feeling better. I think you have had a great first pitting. I am jealous.  
I am also very glad to hear that “Quotas are illegal in New Jersey”. 😉

Jim

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/204 "2006-09-15T19:54:41Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
**Loach** , glad to hear your little girl is feeling better. I think you have had a great first pitting. I am jealous.  
I am also very glad to hear that “Quotas are illegal in New Jersey”. 😉

Jim  
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Yes I am pretty happy with my first Pitting, I hope they all go this way. I’m still a little miffed that the original thread shitting ruined a perfectly good GQ thread. I think I’ll just let this one sink to the bottom now.

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/205 "2006-09-15T20:22:34Z")

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> [@Eleusis](#):
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> I can handle left field.

That’s great, but the third out was recorded about ten minutes ago and the other team is scared to take the field until you stop stacking garlic fries atop your head and suspending soft pretzels from your erect penis.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/206 "2006-09-15T20:25:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Loach]  
Yes I am pretty happy with my first Pitting, I hope they all go this way.  
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5 pages, no shit you should be happy! Pretty cool. And at least you noticed it. My only Pitting, I didn’t even notice it until it was page 3 and several people had jumped in to defend my comment.  
But I don’t think it counts unless the opposition has, you know, a point.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/207 "2006-09-15T20:27:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]

But I don’t think it counts unless the opposition has, you know, a point.  
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Not counting the one on the top of their head.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/208 "2006-09-15T20:27:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Anaamika]  
5 pages, no shit you should be happy! Pretty cool. And at least you noticed it. My only Pitting, I didn’t even notice it until it was page 3 and several people had jumped in to defend my comment.  
But I don’t think it counts unless the opposition has, you know, a point.  
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Now you are just showing your jealousy. 😉  
\*\*Besides many pittings are completely pointless. \*\*

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/209 "2006-09-15T20:31:31Z")

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Having read the thread, I have a few suggestions:

- change the thread title to ‘Loach is a cop who knows his business’

- could we club together to send Eleusis a dictionary (so he can look up ‘hypothetical’, legal’ and ‘pig-headed ignoramus’)

- I’ve never seen such unanimity here. Cops, prosecutors, defence lawyers, people who’ve been stopped, left wingers, right wingers, Americans and foreigners all agree with Loach. \*  
\*clearly this means Eleusis is the victim of a clever conspiracy. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/210 "2006-09-15T20:39:53Z")

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We’ve all lost track of the original question. And I’m sticking with my original opinion. Loach is a dickhead for stealing the guy’s gun and using it to crack his windshield during that illegal search. What kind of monster are you, Loach?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/211 "2006-09-15T20:50:26Z")

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Hey, at least Loach didn’t give him a ticket for littering.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/212 "2006-09-15T20:52:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Duggy Fizzle]  
Because the basis for the original stop is illegal since PA only issues one plate, thus driving with only one plate is legal. **catsix** said the reason for the traffic stop was he was pulled over for having one plate. Fruits of the poisonous tree are thrown out. No valid PC for traffic stop, all evidence coming from said traffic stop will not be allowed.  
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Had she consented to the search I doubt that any evidence resulting from the consensual search would be thrown out. Giving permission to the police takes care of all sorts of rights issues.

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**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/213 "2006-09-15T22:47:40Z")

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Just in case he decides to come back, I have a question:

**Eleusis** , if (hypothetically, of course) some scumbag breaks into your house and commits some unspeakable horror against you or one of your loved ones, who do you plan on calling?

And if said scumbag is arrested during a routine traffic stop for, oh, I don’t know, maybe a _cracked windshield_ , and the officer finds a weapon and some of your worthless shit in his car, are you going to demand that he be released because the officer didn’t have PC to search the vehicle?

You have a lot of stones calling **Loach** a dickhead!

And calling the _windshield_ cracked!

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2006, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/214 "2006-09-15T23:31:32Z")

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[QUOTE=want2know]  
Just in case he decides to come back, I have a question:

**Eleusis** , if (hypothetically, of course) some scumbag breaks into your house and commits some unspeakable horror against you or one of your loved ones, who do you plan on calling?

And if said scumbag is arrested during a routine traffic stop for, oh, I don’t know, maybe a _cracked windshield_ , and the officer finds a weapon and some of your worthless shit in his car, are you going to demand that he be released because the officer didn’t have PC to search the vehicle?

You have a lot of stones calling **Loach** a dickhead!

And calling the _windshield_ cracked!  
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Oh, wow. Someone actually said something worse than what Eleusis said. You actually don’t think police should have to respect our basic constitutional rights?

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**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/215 "2006-09-16T00:36:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Excalibre]  
Oh, wow. Someone actually said something worse than what Eleusis said. You actually don’t think police should have to respect our basic constitutional rights?  
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Wait, hold on (checks between lines)–nope, didn’t say that at all. But what if the driver was acting in a suspicious manner–as someone who just commited a crime just possibly would? What if the vehicle stopped matched the description of one seen leaving the crime scene?

I’m not saying all cops are perfect, but they have a tough job that sometimes requires a judgment call. Believing the worst of them only makes their job harder.

Like it or not, they are the only line of defense between law-abiding citizens and criminals. As long as they don’t abuse their authority, I have no problem giving them a little leeway.

Or would you rather try living in a society without them?

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/216 "2006-09-16T05:58:57Z")

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**"Or would you rather try living in a society without them?"**

\*:: Make my day… :: \* Bawahahahaha

YMMV

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2006, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/217 "2006-09-16T14:58:07Z")

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[QUOTE=want2know]  
You have a lot of stones calling […] _windshield_ cracked!  
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Priceless!

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/218 "2006-09-18T04:01:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Oh great, you have **Clothahump** agreeing with me. I will never forgive you for this. _Never_!  
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Good job, Otto. There’s hope for you yet.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/219 "2006-09-18T05:24:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Eleusis]  
So you think if somebody has a cracked windshield, they should get pulled over and searched?  
[/QUOTE]  
Pulled over and ticketed, yeah. Why the hell not?

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**Author:** ![appa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@appa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appa)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2006, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/220 "2006-09-18T15:19:45Z")

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What better place for my first post.

I have a(n) (un)healthy disdain for the law, but even I am siding with Mr Loach here. Although illegally stopping a guy and switching his intact-windshielded-car for one with a crack is a bit over the top…damn cops and their evidence planting!

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