# Loach is a dickhead fucking cop **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 14, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672 "2006-09-14T13:03:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Reloy3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Reloy3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reloy3)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/141 "2006-09-14T18:00:17Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Hey! This is my pitting. This thread should be all about _meeee_. Cut it out. [/QUOTE] Hey **Loach** , glad you are still here. As a former defense attorney and current prosecutor, I just want to say keep up the good work and don’t let morons like **Eleusis** get you down. His “anti-cop” attitude is in the minority, and as this thread shows, his two brain cells are likely to strangle one another any day now. There is nothing wrong with your hypothesis (but you don’t need me to tell you that) and your stop and search would be upheld by any judge I’ve ever even heard of. I will just say that there are a minority but growing number of states holding that “he acted nervous” can not be used to determine reasonable suspision. Our state is one of those, and I have had a few cases thrown out because that was the majority of the reason for the officer safety search. Your hypothetical included the reaching for something at waist level, which would give you reason to search even without the nervousness. Again keep up the good work. Most of us appreciate it and sleep better at night because people like you are there. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/142 "2006-09-14T18:05:09Z")
Personally, I think you should’ve tasered his ass in that scenario. All those furtive movements… and a cracked windshield? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZappppp!!! “Stop resisting, Sir!!!” ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZap. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/143 "2006-09-14T18:09:10Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Um… Oh, OK, LOACH YOU FUCKER YOU NEVER GAVE ME STEAKS!! Oh wait, I’m a vegetarian, that doesn’t really work… Lemme think about this some more. [/QUOTE] Maybe he was supposed to give you a tofurkey. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/144 "2006-09-14T18:13:52Z")
[QUOTE=Bear\_Nenno] Personally, I think you should’ve tasered his ass in that scenario. All those furtive movements… and a cracked windshield? ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZappppp!!! “Stop resisting, Sir!!!” ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZap. [/QUOTE] Sorry, no tasers in Jersey. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/145 "2006-09-14T18:33:24Z")
But the right to drive with a cracked windshield is the REASON I became an American CITIZEN!!! DAMN YOU ALL When will the OPPRESSION end? ---
**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/146 "2006-09-14T18:34:44Z")
Hey! **Loach** did it again! If you read his post ‘correctly,’ you’ll see that he uses tasers on law-abiding children and, oh, I don’t know, puppies. And he thinks it’s cool! Just read between the lines, man. "[I’m] Sorry, [that there are] no tasers in Jersey [for me to use on children]. Damn you copper!!!1! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/147 "2006-09-14T18:35:38Z")
[QUOTE=Loach] Sorry, no tasers in Jersey. [/QUOTE] Does the state flag show a fat guy making out with a skinny girl? ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/148 "2006-09-14T18:37:01Z")
I don’t want to be part of the pile on , but as a law abiding , tax paying citizen , thanks for doing your job . I doubt you’re in it for the money , so you must give a shit . Thanks . 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/149 "2006-09-14T18:39:44Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Um… Er… Oh, OK, LOACH YOU FUCKER YOU NEVER GAVE ME STEAKS!! Oh wait, I’m a vegetarian, that doesn’t really work… Lemme think about this some more. [/QUOTE] What? You mean you _don’t eat meat?!?_ [/straight line] ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/150 "2006-09-14T18:41:53Z")
I think, at bottom, **Eleusis** is stressing because this conversation is rubbing his face in the fact that he _has to_ get his cracked windshield fixed, and he can’t afford it right now. Kind of an odd time of the morning to be posting drunk, isn’t it? Oh, and I think we can maybe make **Loach** spin out of control if we all agree to make the rest of this Pitting about his little girl. 😉 Hope she’s doing okay, man. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/151 "2006-09-14T18:46:14Z")
[QUOTE=Omegaman] I doubt you’re in it for the money , so you must give a shit . Thanks . 🙂 [/QUOTE] Well, now, let’s not get _too_ lovely-dovey. Plenty of cops are in it for the power, or at least act that way. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/152 "2006-09-14T18:47:03Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Does the state flag show a fat guy making out with a skinny girl? [/QUOTE] You mean like Sopranos or Kevin Smith in real life? joke? What was that joke from, Family Guy? Jim ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/153 "2006-09-14T19:00:14Z")
_Simpsons_, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/154 "2006-09-14T19:45:57Z")
I am also not anti-cop, but I’m going to have to come to \*\*Eleusis’ \*\* defense on this one. A friend of mine is a sheriff’s deputy. According to him, a cop is given quiet a bit of leeway on whether or not to pull someone over when it comes to minor infractions. One example is speeding… some cops will pull you over for doing 59 in a 55, while others would not. Another example… there are cops who feel it is unjustified to pull someone over for a cracked windshield, and there are cops who feel it is completely justified. The important thing to note is that _cops are allowed to do either_. Is it legal for a cop to pull someone over for a cracked windshield? Yes. But that doesn’t mean they \*have \* to. (See previous paragraph). Any cop who does so is probably just on a fishing expedition, and thus is a Class-A jerk in my book. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/155 "2006-09-14T19:52:09Z")
[QUOTE=Crafter\_Man] Is it legal for a cop to pull someone over for a cracked windshield? Yes. But that doesn’t mean they \*have \* to. (See previous paragraph). Any cop who does so is probably just on a fishing expedition, and thus is a Class-A jerk in my book. [/QUOTE] But the point is: **Loach** did not say he ever did so, and in fact denied outright ever having done so. **Eleusis** did not say “cops who do that are jerks”; **Eleusis** said “Loach is a jerk for doing this!!!”. **Eleusis** is not being called an idiot for opposing cops who pull people over for cracked windshields. He is being called an idiot for not being able to tell the difference between _example_ and _truth_. And for not being able to understand the difference even after twenty people explained it to him. And for going completely ballistic in the argument without any provocation. And for being a general idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/156 "2006-09-14T20:02:43Z")
[QUOTE=Duggy Fizzle] Dopers, how many of you have something illegal in your car at this moment? [/QUOTE] I have a cracked windshield. Really. Also, I’m blacker than the ace of spades and I like to buttfuck farm animals. [QUOTE=Excalibre] Actually, this may be the smartest thread Eleusis has ever posted. [/QUOTE] [This one’s pretty good](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=141703), if only for the quoted phrase “slopeheaded burbling.” ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/157 "2006-09-14T20:08:34Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] There are still pinto’s driving around out there? [/QUOTE] There are typically one or two parked near the gas station in the local Whole Foods parking lot. I’ve never seen them move though. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/158 "2006-09-14T20:12:18Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > I am also not anti-cop, but I’m going to have to come to Eleusis’ defense on this one. > > A friend of mine is a sheriff’s deputy. According to him, a cop is given quiet a bit of leeway on whether or not to pull someone over when it comes to minor infractions. One example is speeding… some cops will pull you over for doing 59 in a 55, while others would not. Another example… there are cops who feel it is unjustified to pull someone over for a cracked windshield, and there are cops who feel it is completely justified. The important thing to note is that cops are allowed to do either. > > Is it legal for a cop to pull someone over for a cracked windshield? Yes. But that doesn’t mean they have to. (See previous paragraph). Any cop who does so is probably just on a fishing expedition, and thus is a Class-A jerk in my book. To us it may be a fishing expedition, but to them it’s a pretext stop, and rightly or wrongly it’s just a fact of life. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve generally found that how often I’ve been pulled over throughout the years has been directly proportional to the length of my hair. It can be irritating, but irritating doesn’t necessaily translate into a legal argument. Pretext stops happen all the time: license plate light out, part of the plate obscured by the little dealership ring around the plate, riding your bicycle after dark without a light on it, etc. etc. That last one’s a biggie around here. I had one guy who was given two tickets in a two week period for not having a light on his bike; part of the reason they kept approaching him about it was that he was a registered sex offender and convicted rapist and they just wanted to keep tabs on him. The third time they approached him and he still didn’t have a light, they arrested him for it (which they can do) for it and found cocaine in the bike bag. The DA used his priors to enhance him and he got 15 years. I have guys all the time ranting and raving about how they were “illegally searched” when what they really mean is “that cop was a jerk to do me that way,” which are two entirely different things. A cop who pulls you over because your license plate light is out when he really wants to see if you look stoned and your car smells like weed may seem like a jerk to you, but you’re still the one who’s going to go to jail. That’s why the _really_ serious guys drive nondescript four door sedans that are completely up to code, and never speed. If you’re going to drive around with a gun in your waistband, better get your windshield fixed. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/159 "2006-09-14T20:13:44Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] … I like to buttfuck farm animals. [/QUOTE] Didn’t you get the message about not walking away from your PC while logged into the Dope. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2006, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672/160 "2006-09-14T20:15:55Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise] Also, I’m blacker than the ace of spades and I like to buttfuck farm animals. [/QUOTE] How come I never see you at the meetings? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loach-is-a-dickhead-fucking-cop/372672.md?page=9)