# lobstermonster, stick to flipping off little kids **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 23, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638 "2007-10-23T00:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/281 "2007-10-23T21:51:10Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Are you guys going to a dopefest, **psy**? E-mail me the info; maybe I’ll attend. [/QUOTE] Maybe if you weren’t too high and mighty for us plebes, we would have invited you. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/282 "2007-10-23T21:53:36Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] I’m failing to see the reason for the linguistic vs lingual “jokes.” Is there a naughty definition to linguistic I’m not aware of or did you two just misread the word? [/QUOTE] Nah, I’m just showing off my adolecent sense of humor. I didn’t even think of labial, eleanor! It’ll be on the tip of my tongue next time. ---
**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/283 "2007-10-23T21:53:52Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Are you guys going to a dopefest, **psy**? E-mail me the info; maybe I’ll attend. [/QUOTE] We are! Maybe I’ll call you at 3 AM instead. Oh, I’ll be in Oaktown on Thursday for Bruce. Dinner? Drinks? Fellatio? ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/284 "2007-10-23T21:59:12Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Are you guys going to a dopefest, **psy**? E-mail me the info; maybe I’ll attend. [/QUOTE] [thread=439739]Here’s the thread.[/thread] ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/285 "2007-10-23T21:59:18Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > At last, I can prove I exist. Your taste in beer is also terrible, although you appear to be a Grade A badass. I salute you, sir. > [@dropzone](#): > > Is there a naughty definition to linguistic Well, they say I’m a cunning linguist with a sharp tongue. > [@Omegaman](#): > > You remember when I told you that and almost got banned? Guess it pays to be a member of the team. What, the “not a raging asshole” team? Sorry, you’d never make the cut. ---
**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/286 "2007-10-23T22:01:16Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] What, the “not a raging asshole” team? Sorry, you’d never make the cut. [/QUOTE] Can I be on this team? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/287 "2007-10-23T22:03:44Z")
[QUOTE=psycat90] Dinner? Drinks? Fellatio? [/QUOTE] Why not combine all three? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/288 "2007-10-23T22:10:43Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] Why not combine all three? [/QUOTE] Because the people at IHOP’s have closed minds. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/289 "2007-10-23T22:10:47Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] Why not combine all three? [/QUOTE] Because it’s really hard to suck dick and drink a beer with a mouth full of steak. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/290 "2007-10-23T22:11:57Z")
[QUOTE=Cluricaun] Wait, **Quiddity Glomfuster** ’s status shows as “member”, not as banned or anything. Why would someone sock themselves if they don’t have to? I’m confused. 😕 [/QUOTE] Yeah, as far as I know, **Quiddity** is a member in good standing. I’m not sure where the sock idea came from. ---
**Author:** ![psycat90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@psycat90](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psycat90)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/291 "2007-10-23T22:13:24Z")
[QUOTE=Snarky\_Kong] Because it’s really hard to suck dick and drink a beer with a mouth full of steak. [/QUOTE] True, but I’m sure woody can pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/292 "2007-10-23T22:13:48Z")
> [@lobstermobster](#): > > Can I be on this team? Sure, but there’s a hazing ritual. Now that I think about it, you _like_ shitty beer, so you’ll probably do just fine. The dinner and fellatio part makes some people uncomfortable, though. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/293 "2007-10-23T22:20:43Z")
[QUOTE=Giraffe] Yeah, as far as I know, **Quiddity** is a member in good standing. I’m not sure where the sock idea came from. [/QUOTE] There are a lot of would be sock detectors on the board. Sometimes their guesses are pretty out there. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/294 "2007-10-23T22:27:59Z")
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia] There are a lot of would be sock detectors on the board. Sometimes their guesses are pretty out there. [/QUOTE] That sounds like something **TVeblen** would say! Busted, sock!! ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/295 "2007-10-23T22:28:19Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] Why not combine all three? [/QUOTE] Well okay, but you’d better make sure there’s someone around to perform the Heimlich maneuver if necessary… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/296 "2007-10-23T22:28:33Z")
[QUOTE=Wile E] … you don’t even-- you’re glib. You don’t even know what lobstermobster is. If you start talking about lobstermobster, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these lobstermobsters, okay? That’s what I’ve done. Then you go and you say where’s-- where’s the lostermobster test? Where’s the blood test that says how much lobstermobster you’re supposed to get? And to talk about lobstermobtser in a way of saying, “Well, isn’t it okay,” and being reasonable about it when you don’t know and I do, I think that you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing what lobstermobster is. You just communicate about lobstermobster. And the important thing is, like you and I talk about it, whether it’s – okay, if I wanna know something, I go and find out. Because I don’t talk about lobstermobsters that I don’t understand. I’ll say, you know what? I’m not so sure about that. I’ll go find more information about lobstermobster so I can-- I can come to an opinion based on-- on the lobstermobster that I have. [/QUOTE] Perfect. I commend you. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/297 "2007-10-23T22:31:49Z")
[QUOTE=psycat90] True, but I’m sure woody can pull it off. [/QUOTE] I’m not sure that pulling it off qualifies as successful fellatio. Hey, who am I to judge, but I definitely want it to stay on. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/298 "2007-10-23T22:33:19Z")
[QUOTE=Waverly] You’ll excuse me if I don’t find innuendo coming from a 30+ year old virgin apropos of anything interesting. [/QUOTE] Fuck you. As for people dealing with it in the past-yeah, some did. Some killed themselves, or ended up in a nuthouse. But for those that did survive-so what? They were still suffering. Is this some kind of puritan notion that suffering is somehow noble? Fuck that shit. I’d rather be thought a wimp because I choose to be treated for OCD. I refuse to be miserable just so some jackasses can think better of me. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/299 "2007-10-23T22:33:22Z")
[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird] Exactly. Everybody’s fucked up somehow, and people always have been. Difference is, people used to be able to get on with their lives without whining about it 24/7 or using their ailments as an excuse not to do what needed to be done to function in society (and yes, I realize there are valid conditions that don’t allow one to function in society, but most problems aren’t that severe, except in the sufferer’s mind). We’re a whole society of overweight pussies. [/QUOTE] I think this is inconsistent with the historical record. People _used_ to be imprisoned or exiled for ailments that are today quite treatable. Pinel advocated a particularly brutal form of aversion therapy that subjected the “mad” to torture until they victim internalized the rules of normalcy. This was not the fringe, this was the norm. People didn’t just get on with their lives without whining: they were frequently consigned by friends, relatives, and society at large to a life of confinement and misery. Just to give you a little taste of Pinel, from _A treatise on insanity_: > [@](#): > > It is become an established maxim in both countries, that insanity is is much more certainly and effectually cured in places adapted for their reception and treatment, than at home amidst the various influences of family interests and intercourse. > [@](#): > > A young gentleman, twenty-two years of age, of a robust concentration, was deprived of part of his property by the revolution. He gave way to melancholy, began to look forward to futurity with extreme despondency, and lost his sleep. He was, at length, seized by a violent maniacal fury. He was put upon the treatment for acute mania, in the town of his department. With his hands and feet tied he was suddenly immersed in the cold bath. Nonwithstanding the violence with which he resisted the treatment, it was practiced upon him for some time. Pinel does not entirely advocate this practice, to be fair, but that is not really the point. People perceived as crazy didn’t just get on with their lives and stop whining, they were imprisoned and subject to brutal treatment against their will. Pinel does have a chapter called “Mental Derangement Cured By The Eruption of the Skin”. I’m not knocking Pinel or the forefathers of psychiatric science. All science came from relatively humble origins, and Pinel was a truly original thinker. I am just saying that there was no golden age when everyone miraculously overcame their disorders. Perhaps now we overmedicate to normalcy. But in the past, perhaps you never heard any whining because the whiners were all “on retreat” getting “pumping on the head.” Again, from Pinel: > [@](#): > > Recourse was then had to opiates at night, and to a tonic restorative diet, conjoined with pediluvium, warm ablutions, and pumping on the head. I’ll take the whining, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/300 "2007-10-23T22:33:22Z")
Why would you assume I like shitty beer just because I’m holding one in a picture? Why does everyone put words in everyone else’s mouth here? This whole sock business is really confusing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638.md?page=16)