# lobstermonster, stick to flipping off little kids

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 23, 2007, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638 "2007-10-23T00:28:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/41 "2007-10-23T02:47:37Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Yes I was diagnosed by a doctor. This is not something I made up to feel special or to give myself excuses. So you too can go fuck yourself.  
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settle down, crazy, i said I take it back!!

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/42 "2007-10-23T02:47:51Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> really, how does one prepare to go fuck oneself? wine? roses? pretty undies? candles? K-Y?

I like a nice relaxing drink and some soft music. Pretty undies are nice too.

Seriously though, I’m with **lobstermobster**. Of course there are legitimate psychological conditions, and some people have them. But it seems like people don’t have quirks and moods anymore, they have personality disorders. Not every unpleasant feeling has to be medicated away, folks.

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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/43 "2007-10-23T02:48:27Z")

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[QUOTE=wring]  
really, how does one prepare to go fuck oneself? wine? roses? pretty undies? candles? K-Y?  
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I usually take myself to a nice dinner first.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/44 "2007-10-23T02:48:29Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
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No, I’m not saying it’s all in your head (although it is–by way of chemical imbalance etc), but you could try. Just wash ONE dish.  
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That’s the current system. It still takes months to empty the sink

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> Or, admit defeat and only use paper and plastic.

I have switched. Did you read my posts in the other thread?

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> Why have rusting utensils? That sounds a bit crazy to me. Your too depressed to DO the dishes but can tell us all about not doing the dishes?

Properly doing the dishes is a herculean task I just don’t have the energy for anymore. Posting is easy.

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> but I am totally serious when I say that you probably need to bring that up with your therapist.

I have, often.

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> Getting diagnosed is supposed to be the first step–then you’re supposed to get help, meds and some sort of game plan to overcome this. Not just sit back and say, “well, I have OCD.”

I am on meds. I have coping strategies for most of my problems. But the dishes are an obstacle I have yet to overcome.

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> So, I’m pitting the attitue that admitting to any disorder, be it OCD, alcoholism, bipolar, ADD, diabetes, whatever allows you to excuse bad behavior or poor hygiene.

I find the suggestion that I’m just using OCD as an excuse not to do the dishes to be aggravating. I am not using my OCD as an excuse.

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> Sorry if I’ve hurt feelings here, but really I think the “sufferers” are being too sensitive. Mental illness can be soul destroying–but that’s separate from a passing remark referencing the tendency to self-diagnose and then use that diagnosis as a crutch.

**LobsterMobster** said that I had no OCD and was just lazy. It’s hard not to take offense at that.

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/45 "2007-10-23T02:49:49Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Yes I was diagnosed by a doctor. This is not something I made up to feel special or to give myself excuses. So you too can go fuck yourself.  
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If you can afford a doctor surely you can afford a maid. Even just a one-time maid. Get her to lock those dishes up and use paper & plastic until you’re well.

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**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/46 "2007-10-23T02:52:50Z")

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Did I ever tell you guys about the time I got scarlet fever? Like straight up Oregon Trail scarlet fever. Thats what happens if you think you can outwit strep throat. It was spectacular.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/47 "2007-10-23T02:54:20Z")

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Ack. I should have said that after my comment to you (where I named you) that these were general remarks–not addressed specifically to you.  
It won’t take months to empty the sink, if you’d stop using the ceramic dishes once you’ve cleaned them! Kudos to you for being in therapy and for taking your meds etc. My daughter is off meds, has stopped pulling and her hair is growing back. I am proud of her for achieving so much. I would not think less of her if she were still on the meds etc.  
Can we stop being defensive about psychological disorders and some of us can just go back to being eccentric? Please?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/48 "2007-10-23T02:54:47Z")

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[QUOTE=Hilarity N. Suze]  
If you can afford a doctor surely you can afford a maid. Even just a one-time maid.  
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Best advice so far. Fuck the cause, just pay a nominal fee to make the symptoms go away and get on with your life.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/49 "2007-10-23T02:56:55Z")

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[QUOTE=wring]  
really, how does one prepare to go fuck oneself? wine? roses? pretty undies? candles? K-Y?  
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I’m glad you asked that question. Here’s what I do:  
Dress nicely–and take a shower/brush my teeth etc. Maybe some mascara. I’ve never been one for lingerie–the sexiest thing for me is a man’s dress shirt. (it helps if I know the man, of course!)  
Flowers are nice, but a good bit of erotica works better for me.  
Dim lights–I’m of an age where I look better in the dark.  
The rest I leave up to you.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/50 "2007-10-23T02:59:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Hilarity N. Suze]  
If you can afford a doctor surely you can afford a maid. Even just a one-time maid. Get her to lock those dishes up and use paper & plastic until you’re well.  
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I CAN’T afford a therapist and psychiatrist. Luckily, you taxpayers can.

Second, please read my posts in the original thread. A maid could wash the dishes, but could they wash them to my standards? Most likely, I’d examine the ‘clean’ dishes and put them back in the sink.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/51 "2007-10-23T03:02:40Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
A maid could wash the dishes, but could they wash them to my standards? Most likely, I’d examine the ‘clean’ dishes and put them back in the sink.  
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Not a problem. You would have a sink full of clean dishes.

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**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/52 "2007-10-23T03:03:17Z")

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She’s outspoken. It’s what she does. She rubs me the wrong way sometimes too, but I don’t let it get to me, because she’s one of the most entertaining posters here right now. And there’s usually _some_ nugget of truth hidden in even her most inconsiderate missives.

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> Guin, are you being girl-pissy because lm is hotter than you?

Quoted for truth.

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**Author:** ![Beaucarnea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c0e974/32.png) [@Beaucarnea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beaucarnea)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/53 "2007-10-23T03:03:49Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
I CAN’T afford a therapist and psychiatrist. Luckily, you taxpayers can.

Second, please read my posts in the original thread. A maid could wash the dishes, but could they wash them to my standards? Most likely, I’d examine the ‘clean’ dishes and put them back in the sink.  
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DocCathode, go right now to the sink, and throw them away. (I am a treehugger, so I hate the paper and plastic thing you are doing, FTR) Just throw the stinking thorns in your side away.

I spent 13 years as the object of an OCD checker. 52 calls in one day. Stayed awake at night to ensure that I was breathing. Checked on me at the bathroom door. Etc ad nauseum. Know what cured him? A divorce. Now Mr Obsessive is the happy, well-adjusted, loving husband to wife number 2, who has never had an inkling of his OCD issues. We are all happy and healthy now.

Divorce the dishes- throw them out. Why sit there agonizing and obsessing over them?

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**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/54 "2007-10-23T03:05:57Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
I CAN’T afford a therapist and psychiatrist. Luckily, you taxpayers can.

Second, please read my posts in the original thread. A maid could wash the dishes, but could they wash them to my standards? Most likely, I’d examine the ‘clean’ dishes and put them back in the sink.  
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Why would you put them back in the sink? Surely there’s someplace else they could wait until they can be properly washed. Get them boxed up.

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/55 "2007-10-23T03:09:28Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Properly doing the dishes is a herculean task I just don’t have the energy for anymore. Posting is easy.  
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This thread is fascinating to me. I’ve been telling people that I have OCD, but it’s not really true. I’m a bit of a hoarder, but I’m really just a lazy slob. Perhaps I have Mild Compulsive Disorder, or Anti-Anal Retentive Disorder.

I have a friend who I think has been actually diagnosed with OCD. He won’t let anyone in his apartment anymore. His apartment is not filthy, but it is stacked to the rafters with music paraphernalia. And he would never let me wash his dishes. Now I think I understand. He tells me that he no longer takes a shit at his apartment because his toilet is broken. He is regular enough to do it at work. I wish I was so regular.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/56 "2007-10-23T03:32:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Hilarity N. Suze]  
Why would you put them back in the sink? Surely there’s someplace else they could wait until they can be properly washed. Get them boxed up.  
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He could even store them in a cupboard until he’s ready to wash them properly.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/57 "2007-10-23T03:40:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
He could even store them in a cupboard until he’s ready to wash them properly.  
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OK. That was funny…

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/58 "2007-10-23T03:42:37Z")

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Sooooo… is anyone else hanging out in this thread hoping that **lobstermobster** will post a picture of her (with her pretty red bow) doing the dishes?

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/59 "2007-10-23T03:44:10Z")

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**Doc**

Throw out all the dishes, and kitchen utensils you now have in your sink, saving only one of each item. Then, spend the day scrubbing those suckers clean, and put them away.

Now, from that moment hence, you eat, you wash. No stack of dishes. Dishes not washed, you either eat out, or wash before you eat.

Tris

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lobstermonster-stick-to-flipping-off-little-kids/423638/60 "2007-10-23T03:45:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
He could even store them in a cupboard until he’s ready to wash them properly.  
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cute. Buyt, I’m compelled to keep dirty dishes in the sink.

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