# Local H is seriously the worst fucking band of all time

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 24, 2005, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179 "2005-09-24T05:28:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/21 "2005-09-25T00:26:43Z")

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> [@spiralscratch](#):
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> I never hear Creed on the radio, so I can simply pretend they don’t actually exist.

I envy you.

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/22 "2005-09-25T00:37:16Z")

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You know, the radio in my truck hasn’t worked for a while (since the antenna, um, “fell off”), and so I haven’t heard any current music in a few years. Just recently I accidentally surfed into MTV, where I was shocked and horrified to see some idiot on stage doing his most heartfelt Eddie Vedder impersonation.

Is this really current? Does the Pearl Jam-style “alternative” STILL rule the airwaves? (Aside from the hip-hop explosion, I mean.) Seriously, I’m so out of touch that I still think the Pixies are cutting-edge, and even I know these chumps are imitating something that was _never_ cool; and setting aside notions of “cool,” it hasn’t even been _current_ since 1997 or so.

Is this just some massive failing of popular taste? What the hell’s going on here? Why haven’t bands found some brand-new way to suck, like they did back when I was your age? (Dammit. I just _knew_ that phrase was gonna slip out.)

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/23 "2005-09-25T01:25:23Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> You know, the radio in my truck hasn’t worked for a while (since the antenna, um, “fell off”), and so I haven’t heard any current music in a few years. Just recently I accidentally surfed into MTV, where I was shocked and horrified to see some idiot on stage doing his most heartfelt Eddie Vedder impersonation.
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> Is this really current? Does the Pearl Jam-style “alternative” STILL rule the airwaves? (Aside from the hip-hop explosion, I mean.) Seriously, I’m so out of touch that I still think the Pixies are cutting-edge, and even I know these chumps are imitating something that was _never_ cool; and setting aside notions of “cool,” it hasn’t even been _current_ since 1997 or so.
> 
> Is this just some massive failing of popular taste? What the hell’s going on here? Why haven’t bands found some brand-new way to suck, like they did back when I was your age? (Dammit. I just _knew_ that phrase was gonna slip out.)

I got a car without a radio recently and I haven’t listened to MTV or popular radio in a few years either.

From the few times I’ve been exposed to it, the current music on rock stations still seems to be forth generation grunge, taking the worst of grunge, nu-metal, techno-metal, and emo and smushing it all together into a Creedy ball of bland faux-angsty poppiness. By comparison, Local H were true rock visionaries.

The latest truly new thing I _heard_ on the radio was Stabbing-Westward style nu-metal techno-rock blend in the late 90s. And it was a steaming pile of crap. (Nu-metal had already been done by early 90s rap-rock: ditto for emo and early 90s indie.)

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/24 "2005-09-25T01:36:03Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> Sevendust were a funk-metal band that came along much later, in the late nineties, as part of the nu-metal thing - and even they intentionally called attention to the “darkie” in their midst in order to get P.C. points and credibility.
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> Try again.

I gave you what you asked for–unless, of course, you think that mid-90s alt-rock is the be all and end all of alternative music…

If you’re going to change the rules as we’re playing the game, be a dear and announce that beforehand, m’kay?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/25 "2005-09-25T01:36:18Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> I’m just pissed that this band has someone not managed to have gone back to working at Maaco like the member of the Gin Blossoms and Dishwalla.

Bring down the Gin Blossoms at your own risk. They were a great pop band who weren’t Nirvana clones.

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**Author:** ![deevee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@deevee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deevee)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/26 "2005-09-25T03:10:07Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> Bring down the Gin Blossoms at your own risk. They were a great pop band who weren’t Nirvana clones.

Doug Hopkins also blew his brains out at a time when Cobain was still only mildly depressed.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/27 "2005-09-25T04:26:19Z")

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One of the perks of being a cop is having to work concerts. You get to bust shit heads **AND** listen to good music. But about 5 years ago I was working a concert in which L.H. was one of the opening acts. I clearly remember telling my Captain that I was going to file a comp claim for having to listen to that!😛

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/28 "2005-09-25T04:27:57Z")

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I would say Dave Mathews Band would count as alty (until VCO descides to rewrite the rules again) that have several black members if I remember clearly.

No Doubt also had a black back up horn section when they played live and the dude that Gwen was hung up on and inspired all their songs is distinctly non-white.

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**Author:** ![mrunlucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@mrunlucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrunlucky)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/29 "2005-09-25T04:48:42Z")

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Having spent too many years as a music critic, I call honestly tell you that the honor of worst band of all time should be qualified: Worst band of all time that never got a record deal? Worst band that self-released their own bad records? Worst bar band that only did covers in local bars? Worst band that had a record released that went nowhere, that hardly anyone ever heard? Worst band that is so generic or derivative or a sound-alike, signed by a record company to try and compete with a great band that helps define a genre, that after you hear them you almost immediately forget what you just heard? Worst band whose music is just unlistenable self-indulgent noise?

Believe me there are countless hundreds of thousands of worse bands than Local H, and most of them you’ve never heard.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/30 "2005-09-25T04:53:36Z")

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I’d rather listen to Local H than Anal Cunt.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/31 "2005-09-25T06:27:12Z")

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> [@spiralscratch](#):
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> I never hear Creed on the radio, so I can simply pretend they don’t actually exist.

You don’t have to pretend anymore, they broke up.

I heard a pretty funny bit on the radio once, where the Foo Fighters did a parody version of a Creed song.

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/32 "2005-09-25T07:29:21Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> I’d rather listen to Local H than Anal Cunt.

Yeah, but I’d rather listen to someone _say_ “Anal Cunt” than listen to someone say “Local H.”

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/33 "2005-09-25T14:36:04Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> Is this really current? Does the Pearl Jam-style “alternative” STILL rule the airwaves?

Kinda. Pearl Jam “alternative” is now “rock”, and “alternative” has moved on to be what you would also call “indie”.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/34 "2005-09-25T14:48:51Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> Does the Pearl Jam-style “alternative” STILL rule the airwaves?

Pearl Jam hasn’t had a hit in like, 10 years or so, but from what I hear, they still draw in large concert crowds.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/35 "2005-09-25T15:53:09Z")

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> [@Master Control](#):
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> Pearl Jam hasn’t had a hit in like, 10 years or so, but from what I hear, they still draw in large concert crowds.

All the folks who flocked to Phish from the Grateful Dead have now started following Pearl Jam. Don’t ask me why.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/36 "2005-09-25T16:05:25Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> All the folks who flocked to Phish from the Grateful Dead have now started following Pearl Jam. Don’t ask me why.

:dubious: Wow, that is… words fail me…

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/37 "2005-09-25T17:05:04Z")

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> [@Push You Down](#):
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> I would say Dave Mathews Band would count as alty (until VCO descides to rewrite the rules again) that have several black members if I remember clearly.
> 
> No Doubt also had a black back up horn section when they played live and the dude that Gwen was hung up on and inspired all their songs is distinctly non-white.

I would have to take VCO3’s side here. Put Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Local H, and Pearl Jam all in a row and then rotate DMB, No Doubt, and Sevendust as the sixth band. They would, in all three cases, be the one that doesn’t fit. Sevendust is a metal band that I first heard of in comparison to Pantera, No Doubt was a ska/pop band (back then), and DMB has their own folky/rootsy/DMBy sound.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/38 "2005-09-25T17:36:32Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> Name one other black member of _any_ popular “alternative” band. Living Colour do not count.

Splender  
Bloc Party  
Ben Harper & The Innocent Criminals  
TV on the Radio  
Bad Brains  
Morcheeba  
Skindred  
Massive Attack (once upon a time)  
The Libertines  
The Bellrays

Now, you can try pigeonholing some of them them into other genres if you want, but if you try to claim that **Spender** is anything other than popular alternative, when come back bring cites.

Anyway, **Local H** isn’t the world’s best band, but there are hundreds of bands I like a whole lot less. If there’s anyone reading the thread who doesn’t know what they sound like, you can get a free MP3 of their song “Hands on the Bible” from [Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000068CQL/ref=j_disp_dwnld_1/002-9478995-2872810?v=glance&s=music&st=digital-music).

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**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/39 "2005-09-25T17:39:05Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> You know, the radio in my truck hasn’t worked for a while (since the antenna, um, “fell off”), and so I haven’t heard any current music in a few years. Just recently I accidentally surfed into MTV, where I was shocked and horrified to see some idiot on stage doing his most heartfelt Eddie Vedder impersonation.

Hold on, you mean you actually want us to believe that you saw \*music \* on MTV?

I ain’t buying it. MTV hasn’t had any music content since, what, 1993 or so.

And as to the OP, I’d never heard of Local H (I’m mostly out of touch with pop/rock music anymore). But I just can’t resist reading “worst…” threads.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/local-h-is-seriously-the-worst-fucking-band-of-all-time/323179/40 "2005-09-25T17:52:05Z")

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Mtv will actually show music videos…at 2 in the morning.

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