# "Lock, Stock..." Did Big Chris skim £900K?

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**Created:** [November 25, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188 "2003-11-25T14:51:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/1 "2003-11-25T14:51:56Z")

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Dog’s crew steals money and pot from Snow White & the Three Little Chemists. The guys steal money and pot from Dog’s crew. After counting the money, while at the bar, Tom (IIRC) remarks that after paying off Hatchett Harry, they’ll be up £200K apiece. So that’s (£200K + £25K) x 4 = £900K. Add Harry’s £500K, and that’s £1.4M stolen by, and from, Dog’s crew.

Then Rory Breaker & crew gets in a shootout w/ Dog’s crew, Dog makes a run for it, and Big Chris takes the money & guns from Dog. Big Chris then delivers £500K “to the Pound” to Hatchett Harry. Where did that extra £900K go? Is that why Big Chris remark that he made “a few quid” off that job?

Please clarify as you understand it.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/2 "2003-11-25T16:07:03Z")

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I never did the math but it makes sense. If he had been informed that Harry was owed a certain amount, then why not just give him what he’s owed? He did have his son count the cash first - so he would have known what he had taken. One problem with this theory is that I’m pretty sure they were factoring in the value of the weed (at the prices offered by the flamer) as well. I forget how much weed they had, but it was alot. I also forget what the price was initially going to be for the weed - it later got dropped by 50% before the flamer (I forget his name) figured out he was buying _his own_ weed.

DaLovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/3 "2003-11-25T16:37:53Z")

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Ping pong tiddly McGuffin.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/4 "2003-11-25T16:38:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by dalovindj \*  
> **One problem with this theory is that I’m pretty sure they were factoring in the value of the weed (at the prices offered by the flamer) as well.**

Oh, yeah. Or did one of the guys say that the profit wasn’t counting the weed? Gonna have to rent it again…heh, heh.

The flamer was Rory Breaker. (“Today, it’s _Mister_ Breaker”)

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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/5 "2003-11-25T18:28:05Z")

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Damn, I was too slow, and **dalovin’dj** typed up my post before I could.

::Sadly puts on porkpie hat and picks up trombone::

~ **kfl** , President, Guy Ritchie Fan Club

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**Author:** ![Ender\_Will](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Ender\_Will](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ender_Will)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/6 "2003-11-27T07:31:18Z")

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> I forget how much weed they had, but it was alot.

It was, to be precise, “Copius amounts of ganja, yes?”

and **js\_africanus** , I think you’re right. I never did the math, but as you said, Chris made “a few quid” and if I recall the voiceover correctly, he went into the loan sharking business afterwards. So, he made enough to buy a car, put money away for his son (sure, they never SAY this, but would he really let Little Chris be less secure financially than necessary?), and have enough to front large amounts of cash. Not bad for a days work.

Not related to the film, but did y’all know that Vinnie Jones (the actor who played Big Chris, as well as Bullet Tooth Tony in “Snatch”) holds the world record for quickest to be yellow carded? He was a professional soccer player prior to becoming an actor, and in addition to a dozen red cards, he was yellow carded three seconds into a match.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/7 "2003-11-27T14:35:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ender\_Will \*  
> \*\*He was a professional soccer player prior to becoming an actor, and in addition to a dozen red cards, he was yellow carded three seconds into a match. \*\*

Correction: Vinny Jones is a **Legendary** football player. There is not a (British) football fan alive who does not know of Vinny Jones.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/8 "2003-11-27T16:29:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ender\_Will \*  
> \*\*Not related to the film, but did y’all know that Vinnie Jones (the actor who played Big Chris, as well as Bullet Tooth Tony in “Snatch”) holds the world record for quickest to be yellow carded? He was a professional soccer player prior to becoming an actor, and in addition to a dozen red cards, he was yellow carded three seconds into a match. \*\*

So what happened?

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/9 "2003-11-27T18:00:58Z")

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I don’t think this was the reason, but here’s a good idea of how he operated in a match:  
[http://www.ai.rug.nl/~oblivion/weblog/images/vinnyklein.gif](http://www.ai.rug.nl/~oblivion/weblog/images/vinnyklein.gif)

That’s him cordially welcoming Paul Gascoigne during a match. Didn’t he once break someone’s jaw?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/10 "2003-11-27T18:07:13Z")

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I thought the waiter got the other dollar?

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**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/11 "2003-11-27T18:17:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by js\_africanus \*  
> \*\*So what happened? \*\*

See about three quarters of the way [down here](http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/html/article_285.html)

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> He once greeted Scottish captain Kenny Dalglish at the start of a match by saying he’d “rip [his] head off and crap in the hole.” Another time, he held English superstar Paul Gascoigne’s future in his hands when he grabbed Gazza’s balls for covering him too closely. And in 1995, while on assignment for a newspaper, he had too much to drink and nearly amputated a fellow reporter’s nose with his teeth. He even shoved a shotgun up his manager’s left nostril to prod him to put him on the starting team. Jones gave up his life of crime last year after an unparalleled 13 ejections and the dubious distinction of the world’s fastest yellow card (less than three seconds)—in 1991, he had laid out Manchester City’s Peter Reid before the ref could finish blowing the whistle to start the game.

As a Leeds fan (for whom Vinnie once played), in retrospect I have much more sympathy for his actions on Reid. Only kidding - most of the recent debacle was not Reid’s fault.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lock-stock-did-big-chris-skim-900k/215188/12 "2003-12-01T16:29:17Z")

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> I never did the math, but as you said, Chris made “a few quid” and if I recall the voiceover correctly, he went into the loan sharking business afterwards.

Well, he went into loansharking with the WHOLE bag of cash which he recovered when he crashed into their car. When he went to give the bag full of cash back to Harry he discovered the bloodbath and opted to keep the cash instead. So his shy business was banked by the full monty - not some skimmed difference. . .
