# Locke & Key on Netflix - anyone else watching? (possible spoilers)

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**Created:** [February 8, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610 "2020-02-08T01:55:13Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/21 "2020-02-13T12:50:46Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> I found it interesting, and almost sort of reminiscent of the miniseries of the motel keys. [I tried googling it, but am not sure [The Lost Room]([The Lost Room - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Room)) is the right series? I just remember odd stuff, like a pencil that if you tap it a coin appears, can’t remember if it is a penny or a quarter, some objects are slightly inimicable but most are benign like tapping a pencil and getting money]

Yes, that was _The Lost Room_. Every object in the room had a special property, some trivial, some profoundly powerful. There was only one Key. It worked very much like the Go-Anywhere Key from _Locke & Key_, except the Lost Room’s Key let you go from any door into the Lost Room, or from the Lost Room through any door, rather than from any door through any other door.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/22 "2020-02-13T18:38:45Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> Yes, that was _The Lost Room_. Every object in the room had a special property, some trivial, some profoundly powerful. There was only one Key. It worked very much like the Go-Anywhere Key from _Locke & Key_, except the Lost Room’s Key let you go from any door into the Lost Room, or from the Lost Room through any door, rather than from any door through any other door.

I would’ve rather Netflix picked up more _The Lost Room._ It was a great series, and the creator has been meaning to continue the story in whatever way. I recently re-watched it, and it still holds up. Maybe this show will pave the way?

Locke & Key was decent however, for YA fare. Excellent production values & visual effects.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/23 "2020-02-13T18:57:31Z")

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Finished this today. I thought it was all right, though the ending was a bit flat for me. This had some of the oldest looking “teens” I’ve seen in a series since _Vampire Diaries_ (Javi on the hockey team is 29). And the dead dad came across as something of a dick in almost every flashback scene, which was weird.

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/24 "2020-02-15T18:19:15Z")

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Jist finished it. Thought it was okay. A silly premise, but well executed.

We need more pun-based series. Maybe _The DeVille and the Deep Blue Sea_? Man buys classic car and finds that it is also a submarine? How about _Rocke and a Hard Place_? Is that anything? Would this show have worked as well if it was _Smith and Key_?

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/25 "2020-02-15T18:28:15Z")

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Also, I don’t think I had ever seen Joe Hill before, but had a feeling that ambulance driver in the last episode was him. [I was right](https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/locke-and-key-joe-hill-gabriel-rodriguez-cameos).

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/26 "2020-02-15T20:37:55Z")

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**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/27 "2020-02-15T20:39:55Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> Yes, that was _The Lost Room_. Every object in the room had a special property, some trivial, some profoundly powerful. There was only one Key. It worked very much like the Go-Anywhere Key from _Locke & Key_, except the Lost Room’s Key let you go from any door into the Lost Room, or from the Lost Room through any door, rather than from any door through any other door.

loved _The Lost Room_. meh protagonist but it did everything else right. not sure that ti started on Netflix, though.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/28 "2020-02-16T00:44:47Z")

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Just watched the first episode last night, not blown away, but intrigued enough to tune in again. We’ll most likely watch it through, it was entertaining enough to keep us curious.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/29 "2020-02-19T16:18:39Z")

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I finished it last night, it was a good but not great series. A lot of dumb stuff by the heroes had to be stomached. That gets kind of old. But overall I liked the story and the characters.

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/30 "2020-02-19T21:06:28Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Also, I don’t think I had ever seen Joe Hill before, but had a feeling that ambulance driver in the last episode was him. [I was right](https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/locke-and-key-joe-hill-gabriel-rodriguez-cameos).

I didn’t occur to me that that might Joe Hill, but as he said his line I said jeez that guy looks like Stephen King used to!

As for the show, I thought it got worse as it went along. The actresses playing Kinsey and the mum seemed to playing it for laughs by the end. It was quite silly really.

MiM

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**Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/31 "2020-02-20T01:50:34Z")

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> [@DerNils](#):
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> I think it was beautifully shot and had some great characters. Loving the diversity, having a disabled guy just being another guy they interact with is great.  
> The did rely on the idot ball hard in some episodes, like the drowning Caves and especially the final Episode.

> [@cmyk](#):
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> Excellent production values & visual effects.

I just finished the last episode, and I agree with the above assessments. Visually great and I liked the characters and actors, for the most part. I actually found the mom to be the most annoying character. The characters do act stupid too much, but otherwise I found the writing to be pretty good in that I couldn’t predict too easily what would happen next, and I think the plot moves forward at a pretty good pace without a lot of filler scenes. Overall I enjoyed it and will definitely watch another season.

> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Also, I don’t think I had ever seen Joe Hill before, but had a feeling that ambulance driver in the last episode was him. [I was right](https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/locke-and-key-joe-hill-gabriel-rodriguez-cameos).

> [@Made\_in\_Macau](#):
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> I didn’t occur to me that that might Joe Hill, but as he said his line I said jeez that guy looks like Stephen King used to!

Ha, I did not know about the connection, but when that ambulance driver appeared I thought to myself, “That looks like a young Stephen King” and wondered if there was a reason. Now I know!

Did you catch the earlier cameo, in episode 2?

The owner of the hardware store who gives Bode the jar of keys was played by Tom Savini, horror movie icon and namesake of Scot’s “Savini Squad” film crew.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/32 "2020-02-23T18:07:49Z")

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We’ve seen the first two episodes, and it’s not great, but we will tune in again. I do have a question, or I’m wondering if I missed something. Why does it seem like the youngest, Bodie, I think, the one finding all the keys doesn’t go to school? In the second episode, it was very clear the older ones got to school, spent the day at school, and came home. Bodie, was just hunting around the house for keys. Was this explained? If not, I think it’s a big miss on the plot, how am I supposed to suspend the fact that the kid ought to be in school?

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/33 "2020-02-23T18:15:21Z")

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There’s a line about his term time starting a week after the siblings.  
MiM

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/34 "2020-02-23T20:51:11Z")

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> [@Made\_in\_Macau](#):
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> There’s a line about his term time starting a week after the siblings.  
> MiM

Thank you, I obviously missed that 😊.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/35 "2020-02-24T14:57:03Z")

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I liked it well enough. I will definitely watch a second season.

I found it a bit unlikely that

[spoiler]Dodge would be able to do Gabe stuff (presumably attending class and being with his parents), do her Dodge stuff, do her Lucas stuff, etc. The fact that I didn’t have to think about that until after the show ended, and the fact that it was fantasy, I can let it slide.

I did think it was quite obvious that Gabe was a bad guy though, his puppeteer of Eden suggested a total psychopath. It just did not occur to me that it was Dodge though.  
[/spoiler]

If it was darker as people have said it was in the comics, I think I would have enjoyed it more. I would have preferred a little more Shining, and a little less Harry Potter. The teenagery stuff didn’t bother me though. Were they stupid sometimes? Sure. Teenagers are definitely stupid sometimes though.

I can see why they they kept it lighter though, I think it will have a bigger following (my wife wouldn’t have liked it any darker.

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> I liked it well enough. I will definitely watch a second season.
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> I found it a bit unlikely that
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> [spoiler]Dodge would be able to do Gabe stuff (presumably attending class and being with his parents), do her Dodge stuff, do her Lucas stuff, etc. The fact that I didn’t have to think about that until after the show ended, and the fact that it was fantasy, I can let it slide.
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> I did think it was quite obvious that Gabe was a bad guy though, his puppeteer of Eden suggested a total psychopath. It just did not occur to me that it was Dodge though.  
> [/spoiler]

Same. The comics were better, but the show was entertaining enough. I’m now rereading the comics and enjoying them again.

On your spoilered comment:

I couldn’t figure out how Dodge could be Gabe, logistically. She spent relatively little time being the menacing Well Lady or being Lucas at Ellie’s, so I think she’d have enough _time_ to be Gabe, but… wasn’t Gabe an established member of the Savinis when Kinsey met them? Like, they all knew each other and had worked on the movie, and were all ready to shoot that scene like a day or two after Kinsey started school, but Dodge didn’t get released from the well house until a few days before that, right?

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/37 "2020-02-24T20:05:21Z")

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iamthewalrus(:3=

I couldn’t figure out how Dodge could be Gabe, logistically. She spent relatively little time being the menacing Well Lady or being Lucas at Ellie’s, so I think she’d have enough _time_ to be Gabe, but… wasn’t Gabe an established member of the Savinis when Kinsey met them? Like, they all knew each other and had worked on the movie, and were all ready to shoot that scene like a day or two after Kinsey started school, but Dodge didn’t get released from the well house until a few days before that, right?

Regarding this,

I assumed Dodge murdered Gabe offscreen and took over his identity shortly after she got out of the well. It really makes no sense otherwise. Of course, that is never shown. Gabe has to have been a real person that pre-dates the well escape. I would also hope that Dodge somehow absorbed Gabe’s memories, that would make pulling it off even more difficult.

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> Same. The comics were better, but the show was entertaining enough. I’m now rereading the comics and enjoying them again.
> 
> On your spoilered comment:

As I remember it,

Gabe wasn’t really one of the Savinis - he was explicitly introduced as being a recent transfer who agreed to help the Savinis with their movie in exchange for them becoming his friends, as he didn’t have any at the school yet. Now, how Dodge apparently knew before Kinsey became involved with the Savinis to ingratiate him/her/itself with the Savinis in anticipation of Kinsey also becoming involved with them…

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/locke-key-on-netflix-anyone-else-watching-possible-spoilers/847610/39 "2020-02-24T20:20:12Z")

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Gabe wasn’t really one of the Savinis - he was explicitly introduced as being a recent transfer who agreed to help the Savinis with their movie in exchange for them becoming his friends, as he didn’t have any at the school yet. Now, how Dodge apparently knew before Kinsey became involved with the Savinis to ingratiate him/her/itself with the Savinis in anticipation of Kinsey also becoming involved with them…

Ugh, the more you think about this, the dumber it becomes. Is this in the comics? Surely they must have addressed this better there.

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> Gabe wasn’t really one of the Savinis - he was explicitly introduced as being a recent transfer who agreed to help the Savinis with their movie in exchange for them becoming his friends, as he didn’t have any at the school yet. Now, how Dodge apparently knew before Kinsey became involved with the Savinis to ingratiate him/her/itself with the Savinis in anticipation of Kinsey also becoming involved with them…
> 
> Ugh, the more you think about this, the dumber it becomes. Is this in the comics? Surely they must have addressed this better there.

In the comics the key that Dodge uses is the gender key, and just switches between well lady and Lucas, who transfers into the school and works his way in with Tyler’s friends but also strikes up a relationship with Kinsey.

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