# Log Cabin Republicans-Are they effective, or are they a joke?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 18, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332 "2018-06-18T19:11:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332/21 "2018-06-25T18:03:31Z")

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Log Cabin Republicans “win” [in Texas Republican platform](http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/texas-gop-changes-on-lgbtq-people-stop-way-short-leave-behind-trans-people-10824352): Changing “Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the fundamental unchanging truths that has [sic] been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our nations [sic] founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable alternative lifestyle, in public policy, nor should family be redefined to include homosexual couples” to “We affirm God’s biblical design for marriage and sexual behavior between one biological man and one biological woman, which has proven to be the foundation for all great nations in Western Civilization. We oppose homosexual marriage, regardless of state of origin. We urge the Texas Legislature to pass religious liberty protections for individuals, businesses, and government officials who believe marriage is between one man and one woman.”

Basically, they are saying “We really don’t give a shit why you are gay-we still hate you.”  
Way to go, LCR!

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332/22 "2018-06-25T20:03:52Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Basically, they are saying “We really don’t give a shit why you are gay-we still hate you.”  
> Way to go, LCR!

As long as you blindly insist on assuming “hate” as the motivator for every action you dislike, it will be impossible to have a constructive conversation.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332/23 "2018-06-25T20:09:56Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> And they get to speak and not have their identity attacked. Minority viewpoints within minority communities deserve the same consideration.

Will no one speak for the Kapos?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332/24 "2018-06-25T20:23:24Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> As long as you blindly insist on assuming “hate” as the motivator for every action you dislike, it will be impossible to have a constructive conversation.

Yeah.  
Thanx for the input.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332/25 "2018-06-25T20:36:48Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> As long as you blindly insist on assuming “hate” as the motivator for every action you dislike, it will be impossible to have a constructive conversation.

Okay - “we don’t give a shit why you’re gay, we’ll still discriminate against you, treat you as lesser human beings, and make it very clear that we think you’re a threat by your very existence”. Better?

Trust me, you get off _easy_ when we just call it “hate”. The idea that you could hold these opinions about someone without hating them is scary in its own right - “Sure, you’re a pestilent, rotten boil on the face of humanity who deserves less rights than us _real_ people, but we don’t _hate_ you” sounds _disturbingly_ psychopathic - but if you insist, we’ll just point to the _consequences_ of your actions. Congratulations.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-are-they-effective-or-are-they-a-joke/816332/26 "2018-06-25T20:44:22Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> As long as you blindly insist on assuming “hate” as the motivator for every action you dislike, it will be impossible to have a constructive conversation.

As long as you blindly insist on assuming that you can deflect commentary on your hatred of LGBT by claiming that it’s not hatred, it will be impossible for LGBT and their supporters to live peacefully with you and your kind.

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