# Log Cabin Republicans Trash Obama's decision to support gay marriage **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430 "2012-05-09T21:29:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/41 "2012-05-10T04:28:07Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I was answering a question you had. > > Where was the argument? Oh, man. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/42 "2012-05-10T04:28:27Z")
> [@fumster](#): > > Obama dragged his feet on DADT in the same way he dragged his feet on killing OBL. So for both of these he made a gutsy decision at the right time? That was your point, right? ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/43 "2012-05-10T04:32:53Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So for both of these he made a gutsy decision at the right time? That was your point, right? Totally. I have such a mancrush on him right now. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/44 "2012-05-10T04:54:17Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > Oh, man. You only had three posts before mine in this thread. Should be easy. Looks like fifteen(ish) sentences among the whole lot. Shouldn’t be too hard. ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/45 "2012-05-10T05:02:00Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > You only had three posts before mine in this thread. > > Should be easy. Looks like fifteen(ish) sentences among the whole lot. > > Shouldn’t be too hard. So you have absolutely no point. Okay. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/46 "2012-05-10T05:11:02Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > So you have absolutely no point. Okay. I made my point. You have dodged it twice now (in my view three times but giving you the benefit of the doubt). ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/47 "2012-05-10T05:11:31Z")
I can’t believe this controversy. Politics is not like ordering from the takeout window at McDonalds. Obama had faced a ridiculously obstructionist congress, coming from the opposition and his own party, and he has worked step by step to effect changes in the face of staunch opposition. He has come up short a few times, but you just have to ask yourself one question: “Will this get better when Mitt Romney is President?” This election is a dead heat, and there aren’t any signs that people will come out to support Obama the way they did in 2008, and plenty of signs that people will come out to oppose him like they didn’t in 2008. So if you want something to complain about, keep complaining, and President Romney will give you something to complain about. ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/48 "2012-05-10T05:18:11Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I made my point. You have dodged it twice now (in my view three times but giving you the benefit of the doubt). Do you honestly believe that happened? Because, really, it’s tough to believe that someone could honestly believe they made a point after what you did here. I guess by Straight Dope standards maybe you did, though. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/49 "2012-05-10T05:27:05Z")
> [@fumster](#): > > Obama dragged his feet on DADT in the same way he dragged his feet on killing OBL. He at one point said he opposed SSM, and had a homophobic minister speak at his inauguration. Regardless of what he does now, he’s made his general hostility to homosexuals pretty clear. He didn’t have a pro-Islamic terrorism Imam speak at his inauguration, nor has he spoken out against attempts to capture or kill Osama. There’s no similarity. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/50 "2012-05-10T05:32:50Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > Do you honestly believe that happened? Because, really, it’s tough to believe that someone could honestly believe they made a point after what you did here. I guess by Straight Dope standards maybe you did, though. What did I do? Or not do as the case may be? Please be specific. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/51 "2012-05-10T05:52:54Z")
Psst! **Whack** > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Not sure what you think the President can do but he cannot tell the US Attorney to ignore the law. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Holder has to enforce the laws of the US but his marching orders will certainly come from the President. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/52 "2012-05-10T05:59:23Z")
I take it you are pointing out some glaring contradiction? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/53 "2012-05-10T06:05:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I take it you are pointing out some glaring contradiction? I think it’s what \*\*mister nyx \*\*was on about. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/54 "2012-05-10T06:08:15Z")
Well, there was that one time when Archibald Cox told Nixon where to stick it. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/55 "2012-05-10T13:40:57Z")
Perhaps \*\*misty \*\*and \*\*Whacky \*\*would like to continue their conversation in one of our private champagne rooms. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/56 "2012-05-10T14:27:01Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > …and the people here at the Dope would be bitching about flip flopping and political motivations. Partisan politics in the 21st century, I’m stunned. You must be new to the US. Welcome. Actually if Romney came out in favor of gay marriage I would first fall out of my seat and stunned surprise, and then comment how amazing it was that he actually took a stand I agreed in for once, giving him full credit. I would still think he is a weasel who should not be anywhere near the presidency, but I would admire his courage in that instance. ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/57 "2012-05-10T14:30:22Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So for both of these he made a gutsy decision at the right time? That was your point, right? The easy way to go after OBL was to launch a cruise missile. No US soldiers would have been at risk, but we would never be sure he was really dead. Instead, Obama sent in the Seals who shot OBL in the head and took pictures of his body. The easy way on DADT was to let the courts decide it, but instead Obama pursued a legislative solution and slowly got the military brass itself on-board. Now DADT is truly dead; it’s been shot between the eyes and it’s not coming back. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/58 "2012-05-10T14:35:36Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Actually if Romney came out in favor of gay marriage I would first fall out of my seat and stunned surprise, and then comment how amazing it was that he actually took a stand I agreed in for once, giving him full credit. I would still think he is a weasel who should not be anywhere near the presidency, but I would admire his courage in that instance. If I were you I’d admire it quickly, because a “clarification” completely negating his original remarks would surely follow with lightning speed. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/59 "2012-05-10T14:40:22Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > See the cite in post #6 and tell me how that works. The law that removed DADT required the military to provide an analysis of the way that they would implement the removal and a timeline for them to follow. Had the administration openly supported igoring the statutory timetable established, there was the real possibility of lawsuits that would have delayed the implementation, further. Beyond that, DADT was not repealed with any overwhelming number of votes, so a legislative reversal was not out of the question if those congresscritters who were taking heat for their votes were suddenly faced with claims that the administration was subverting the law as written. Obama simply told the Justice department to ensure that all the "t"s were crossed and "i"s dotted to prevent any backlash or upset. He did nothing to prevent the law from being enacted. His orders did nothing to delay the implementation date that had been set forth by law. The various commentators getting in a huff that he “delayed” the implementation are factually wrong and politically stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/60 "2012-05-10T14:45:18Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > They’re _gay_? I thought it was just a group of Republicans who liked getting naked and smearing each other with maple syrup. We all do that. Doesn’t mean we’re gay. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430.md?page=4)