# Log Cabin Republicans Trash Obama's decision to support gay marriage **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430 "2012-05-09T21:29:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/141 "2012-05-14T12:13:50Z")
Okay, I see your point…individual folks who happen to be Mormon are usually nice, helpful, competent, regular folks. So maybe “worthless herd” isn’t quite the best way to put it. “Laughably deluded, with some very questionable and occasionally borderline dangerous ideas” might work better. ---
**Author:** ![Stelios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Stelios](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stelios)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/142 "2012-05-14T13:05:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Look, son, when a piece of snark doesn’t work, it’s not the fault of the audience, it’s the fault of the author. Sure, your lame little remark will get by your brethren, but they aren’t the only one reading. When you are asked to explain it and it doesn’t hold up, you look stupid. Like you’re feeling a little right now. Speaking as an impartial observer, I feel I must point out that, _in fact_, **Jack Batty’s** snark worked beautifully. It made a good point about the blind partisanship of Obama’s detractors, people who look with kindly, forgiving eyes on Bush’s innumerable fuck-ups, while reserving their most critical judgements for Obama, a man who, if he turned water into wine on the White House steps, would merely be pillioried for his choice of vintage. More importantly, it was funny. It worked. It just worked. You don’t have to believe this, or even understand it. Your lack of comprehension doesn’t change anything. You do, however, have to just accept that, although the remark was _addressed_ to you, you were not its target audience, that the rest of us found it amusing and that, consequently, you should _shut the fuck up about it!_ You are, on this point, completely and unalterably wrong. Always and forever. Get it? Got it? Good. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/143 "2012-05-14T17:09:38Z")
> [@Stelios](#): > > Speaking as an impartial observer, I feel I must point out that, _in fact_, **Jack Batty’s** snark worked beautifully. It made a good point about the blind partisanship of Obama’s detractors, people who look with kindly, forgiving eyes on Bush’s innumerable fuck-ups, while reserving their most critical judgements for Obama, a man who, if he turned water into wine on the White House steps, would merely be pillioried for his choice of vintage. More importantly, it was funny. > > It worked. It just worked. You don’t have to believe this, or even understand it. Your lack of comprehension doesn’t change anything. You do, however, have to just accept that, although the remark was _addressed_ to you, you were not its target audience, that the rest of us found it amusing and that, consequently, you should _shut the fuck up about it!_ You are, on this point, completely and unalterably wrong. Always and forever. Get it? Got it? Good. > > Thanks. APPLAUSE Bush promised to get the son of a bitch and then failed miserably (while getting us bogged down in two wars and lots of other bullshit). Along the way Bin Laden was “not all that important” (it is a matter of public record that he said this) or was the bogeyman (depending on which was expedient at whatever time to bolster his “ratings”). Mitt Romney is on record as having been against going after the son of a bitch. Obama approved the plan to go to Pakistan and kill the son of a bitch in his house. And it worked. End. Of. Story. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/144 "2012-05-14T18:00:49Z")
> [@Stelios](#): > > Speaking as an impartial observer, I feel I must point out that, _in fact_, **Jack Batty’s** snark worked beautifully. It made a good point about the blind partisanship of Obama’s detractors, people who look with kindly, forgiving eyes on Bush’s innumerable fuck-ups, while reserving their most critical judgements for Obama, a man who, if he turned water into wine on the White House steps, would merely be pillioried for his choice of vintage. More importantly, it was funny. > > It worked. It just worked. You don’t have to believe this, or even understand it. Your lack of comprehension doesn’t change anything. You do, however, have to just accept that, although the remark was _addressed_ to you, you were not its target audience, that the rest of us found it amusing and that, consequently, you should _shut the fuck up about it!_ You are, on this point, completely and unalterably wrong. Always and forever. Get it? Got it? Good. > > Thanks. Oh boy, another voice from the voice from the echo chamber. :roll eyes: The problem isn’t that a bunch of like-minded wankers would go yuk-yuk-yuk as they pull their puds over a shot using their go-to demon, Bush. Hardly. The problem is that it’s based on the fabricated erroneous notion that I voted for Bush or was/am a fan of his. Not that you and you’re ilk have a problem with a rank lack of truthiness. Now, _THAT_ I do get. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/145 "2012-05-14T18:06:59Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Bush promised to get the son of a bitch and then failed miserably (while getting us bogged down in two wars and lots of other bullshit). Along the way Bin Laden was “not all that important” (it is a matter of public record that he said this) or was the bogeyman (depending on which was expedient at whatever time to bolster his “ratings”). Mitt Romney is on record as having been against going after the son of a bitch. See Post 100, genius. ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/146 "2012-05-14T18:35:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Obama could have (I believe) used an executive order to end it. But he didn’t want to- he wanted a legislative solution- which was filibustered the first time. I’m not aware of any other legislative opportunity he had. > > Considering the outcome, I think his strategy was good and the correct one. Not sure I agree. I cant say my buddy speaks for all gays, but from what he told me, the gay community isnt completely “smitten” with him. They felt betrayed and lied too. Now, they see it is nothing more then a vote getter. At least to listen to him, he still doesnt think Obama will do anything. Even in his words, this is just a deflection to get people off the economy history over the last few years That being said, it isnt like they will vote for Romney or any of the other Republican bigots. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/147 "2012-05-14T18:58:12Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh boy, another voice from the voice from the echo chamber. :roll eyes: The problem isn’t that a bunch of like-minded wankers would go yuk-yuk-yuk as they pull their puds over a shot using their go-to demon, Bush. Hardly. The problem is that it’s based on the fabricated erroneous notion that I voted for Bush or was/am a fan of his. Not that you and you’re ilk have a problem with a rank lack of truthiness. > > Now, _THAT_ I do get. “argle barge, argle bargle.” “Everyone thinks I’m wrong, therefore they are all fools and I am right” You’re a clown. Not the funny kind - the sad kind that is drunk at the side of the road and has pissed himself. Really, we should just look away, but it’s fascinating in a sick sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/148 "2012-05-14T18:58:17Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > Not sure I agree. I cant say my buddy speaks for all gays, but from what he told me, the gay community isnt completely “smitten” with him. That’s strange, because every single one of my gay friends immediately posted his statement on their Facebook pages, and couldn’t be happier. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/149 "2012-05-14T19:25:05Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > I actually don’t see what the complaint is. It’s factually accurate to say that Obama was worse on this issue than Dick Cheney until today. Let’s not give Dick Cheney too much credit for a Profiles in Courage moment on this issue. First of all, he has a gay daughter, which tends to clarify one’s attitudes towards gay people. Second, he waited until 2009, after he was out of office and guaranteed never to run for any office again due to his single digit popularity, to annouce his decision. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/150 "2012-05-14T21:02:15Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > Not sure I agree. I cant say my buddy speaks for all gays, but from what he told me, the gay community isnt completely “smitten” with him. They felt betrayed and lied too. Now, they see it is nothing more then a vote getter. At least to listen to him, he still doesnt think Obama will do anything. Even in his words, this is just a deflection to get people off the economy history over the last few years People like that always bother me, its like they don’t see what would happen if the other side gets to put the clamps down on civil rights progress. Do they ever stop to think if a McCain or Romney administration would have the accomplishments that this president has made? They act like its Obama vs. himself, where the idealized version of Obama with \ rights as his foremost priority is fighting against the reality of Obama with the obstructionist and hateful conservative Congressmen. Of course its to get votes (or to not lose them) but of course it is still the right move. If the ultimate goal is civil rights, marriage rights, adoption rights, etc., then if I were a member of that minority group then I would not care how I get them as long as I get them. ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/151 "2012-05-14T21:21:08Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > People like that always bother me, its like they don’t see what would happen if the other side gets to put the clamps down on civil rights progress. Do they ever stop to think if a McCain or Romney administration would have the accomplishments that this president has made? > > They act like its Obama vs. himself, where the idealized version of Obama with \ rights as his foremost priority is fighting against the reality of Obama with the obstructionist and hateful conservative Congressmen. Of course its to get votes (or to not lose them) but of course it is still the right move. If the ultimate goal is civil rights, marriage rights, adoption rights, etc., then if I were a member of that minority group then I would not care how I get them as long as I get them. It may be different in this community. As far as adoption, or same sex parents, Ive seen many here. My daughter went to a school where about 25% of the parents were same sex. I dont know how many of those kids were of 1 of the parent or adopted. (Small school. Only a couple hundred kids.) ---
**Author:** ![Stelios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Stelios](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stelios)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/152 "2012-05-14T21:52:59Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Oh boy, another voice from the voice from the echo chamber. Since you can’t conclusively demonstrate the extent to which my views accord with those of the majority, I can dismiss your entire post as baseless and can be safely mocked and ignored. But you’re still wrong. Always and forever. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/153 "2012-05-14T22:03:06Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > “argle barge, argle bargle.” > > “Everyone thinks I’m wrong, therefore they are all fools and I am right” Not even close to what I believe. But keep trying…just make sure that knee doesn’t knock out a tooth. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/154 "2012-05-14T22:07:16Z")
> [@Stelios](#): > > Since you can’t conclusively demonstrate the extent to which my views accord with those of the majority, I can dismiss your entire post as baseless and can be safely mocked and ignored. Far be it from me to get between you and what you get your enjoyment from. Whether it’s ignoring me or sucking pit bull cock. But, one thing: if you’re going to “ignore” a post, not responding to it is a good start. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/155 "2012-05-14T22:35:51Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Far be it from me to get between you and what you get your enjoyment from. Whether it’s ignoring me or sucking pit bull cock. > > But, one thing: if you’re going to “ignore” a post, not responding to it is a good start. [Moderating] Calling other posters cock suckers is against the Pit language rules. Please avoid this in the future. No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/156 "2012-05-14T22:42:19Z")
ATMB thread to debate the semantics of saying someone sucks cock versus calling them a cocksucker opened in 3, 2… ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/157 "2012-05-14T23:18:32Z")
Hey. Come on, now. Do pit bull cocks even count? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/158 "2012-05-14T23:29:50Z")
Whats grosser than a pit bull with the clap? The guy that gave it to him. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/159 "2012-05-15T00:07:38Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > Calling other posters cock suckers is against the Pit language rules. Please avoid this in the future.[/Moderating] What if it’s descriptive? Most log-cabin Rebublicans actually suck cocks. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430/160 "2012-05-15T00:21:31Z")
This is the first time I’ve read that phrase about Republicans where it _wasn’t_ a typo for “Koch sucker”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/log-cabin-republicans-trash-obamas-decision-to-support-gay-marriage/621430.md?page=9)