# Logan: Seen It **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logan-seen-it/781336 "2017-03-03T20:31:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logan-seen-it/781336/61 "2017-06-25T02:50:00Z")
Finally got around to renting it, and thought it was terrific. As someone noted, it was great to have a small study of a few people, and how they interact and (maybe) change each other. Man, it was grim though. I thought of The Road a few times while watching. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logan-seen-it/781336/62 "2017-07-03T23:52:30Z")
Just got around to seeing this too. I liked it a lot - the interaction between Charles and Logan really made the movie for me. “I can’t pee if you’re watching.” Regarding Logan’s near-final line “So this is what it feels like.” Did anyone else think this had a double meaning? The obvious interpretation was “So this is what death feels like”, but you could also interpret it as “So this is what it feels like to be a father.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logan-seen-it/781336/63 "2018-11-07T17:45:20Z")
Bumped. Just saw it and really liked it - it’s now probably my favorite _X-Men_ movie. A bleak, near-future tale of Wolverine’s and Prof. X’s last days, as they face both a new enemy and their own mortality. Not sure I’ve ever seen Jackman and Stewart do better. Caliban was a nice character - would like to have seen more of him. Loved the _Shane_ parallels, taking on the car thieves at the beginning, and especially the Professor’s psionic fits - those were great scenes. > [@MedellinMike](#): > > …I do think this is generally the better way for comic book movies to go though, telling smaller, character driven stories rather than the more standard end of the world team up movies… Agreed. > [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Props to Dafne Keen, who held her own against Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman in both the action and the feels. I wouldn’t be surprised if she comes back in a solo movie. Yeah, she was great. My favorite bit was when she came out of the hideout, strode grimly towards all the bad guys and rolled the cut-off head at them. And they all backed away juuuuust a little… > [@Alessan](#): > > The language is about what you’d expect from a notably uncouth old warrior and a semi-senile old man, and the violence is about what you’d expect from combat featuring superstrong characters using supersharp blades. It’s the \*other \*films that were sanitized - this was the first that felt realistic. Yep. > [@Lightnin](#): > > My interpretation is that the bullet, being made of adamantium, could deform his adamantium skull (which it would have to do, to penetrate). It actually blew away a good portion of his head. > > And you’re right, he would be able to heal that, normally- except now he’s got chunks of adamantium where his brain should grow back. If it had been normal bone, he could’ve healed, but his regeneration couldn’t displace the damn-near indestructible metal. > > That’s my fanwank, and I’m stickin’ to it. Works for me! Was Logan’s acquisition of the single adamantium bullet shown in any of the earlier movies? > [@muldoonthief](#): > > Just got around to seeing this too. I liked it a lot - the interaction between Charles and Logan really made the movie for me. “I can’t pee if you’re watching.” > > Regarding Logan’s near-final line “So this is what it feels like.” Did anyone else think this had a double meaning? The obvious interpretation was “So this is what death feels like”, but you could also interpret it as “So this is what it feels like to be a father.” Yes, that’s how I took it. A fitting end. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logan-seen-it/781336/64 "2018-11-07T18:59:04Z")
In addition to every other reason which has been stated for people liking this movie: I like that they made the villains evil, but they gave them a legitimate motive. They’re preventing new mutants from being born because society can’t stand them. A society of laws can’t tolerate individuals which are capable of standing down a military, because you can’t enforce your laws on someone like that. If the full-power Logan had decided to go fully criminal, he could have stole and killed as much as he wanted because he’d have been doing it in god-mode, and society would have had no effective sanction it could have imposed on him. Even the old, fading Logan was more than equal to a whole SWAT team equivalent, more if he’d had a gang backing him up and serious weapons of his own. They even brought up another reason which justified what the villains were doing: Society can’t even stand up to a powerful mutant getting old and becoming incontinent in his powers. Xavier explicitly killed a large number of people simply by accident, due to a seizure disorder interacting with his extremely powerful psi abilities. Even “lesser” mutants could become extremely dangerous in their old age: Can you imagine if Logan had gone senile and gotten sundowner’s syndrome? No nursing home could contain him. Very, very few _prisons_ could contain him. A relatively normal case of Alzheimer’s could turn a number of mutants into elder gods, extremely powerful beings with no comprehensible motives or rationality, simply lashing out at random as the disease process makes them deteriorate. It plays into a theme of the movie: Good or evil, some things are about survival, and human society can’t survive people who are ten sigmas out from average in terms of destructive ability. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logan-seen-it/781336.md?page=3)