# logical flaw in Impeachment Articles

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 30, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logical-flaw-in-impeachment-articles/845614 "2019-12-30T19:42:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/logical-flaw-in-impeachment-articles/845614/56 "2019-12-30T22:33:41Z")

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> [@Jim\_Peebles](#):
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> Everyone agrees Bill stole some money. You say Bill’s stealing some money was not enough to explain why you beat Ted in the “fortune contest”. A court then declares Dave stole from you. You say investigate Dave. You are charged with requesting an investigation into Dave, and your statement that Bill didn’t help you win against Ted is misconstrued as a denial that Bill stole money.

Well, again, that sounds like a good defense: you misunderstood me. I didn’t say that Bill didn’t steal money, I just said that Dave also did.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m not sure how you managed to reach that conclusion from that analogy, but let’s assume you’re right. Let’s also assume Trump didn’t say what I quoted and linked about his position on Russian interference. Let’s ignore the Mueller report conclusions. Let’s ignore the 17 intelligence agencies agreeing on who meddled in the 2016 election. Let’s ignore ALL that, and more.
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> Let’s focus on the following:
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> 1. Trump lost the majority vote.
> 2. [Trump won by a total of ~80,000 votes combined across three states](https://www.axios.com/hillary-clinton-2016-election-votes-supreme-court-liberal-justice-1b4bc4fc-9fad-44b4-ab54-9ef86aa9c1f1.html)
> 3. Russia only needed to convince 0.0615% of the voting public with social media lies.
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> A far larger % of the public believes in ghosts. Do you really believe it was that big a challenge for Russia to find [a handful of useful idiots](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/6/17656996/trump-republican-party-russia-rather-democrat-ohio)?

So, election interference only depends on the margin of victory? If the same exact things happened in 1984 on behalf of Reagan but he wins 59-41 then nothing to see here, no crime?

I think the prior poster’s point is well taken. A scary sounding term like “interfering in the election” implies far more than a few stupid memes. I mean, not that I like foreign countries having any say in selecting our representatives, but with the global nature of the internet, such mild influences cannot be stopped, in either direction. I was going to say short of war, but even with war you couldn’t stop it.

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