# Loki TV series discussion (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** disney-hulu\ **Created:** [January 27, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625 "2021-01-27T18:06:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/581 "2023-11-08T23:38:57Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > So it’s kind of ironic that he’s the “real” version of the hapless and meek Casey. I imagine that’s a deliberate writing choice. Some variants are (behaviorally) wildly different from their Sacred Timeline versions. (Casey. Sylvie.) Some of them are uncannily similar (Mobius). Plus the comic value of the surprise. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/582 "2023-11-09T00:04:22Z")
Oh sure, it was definitely a choice by the writers. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/583 "2023-11-09T00:59:07Z")
I thought there was only one Sylvie, though, and she wasn’t a Variant. She was just trying to live a normal life on a branched timeline. Now B-15, she’s definitely a Variant. Big tough girl who’s actually a pediatrician is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/584 "2023-11-09T09:35:43Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > I thought there was only one Sylvie, though, and she wasn’t a Variant. She was just trying to live a normal life on a branched timeline. Sylvie is already a Loki variant. As far as we know she’s the only Sylvie. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/585 "2023-11-09T20:13:43Z")
Something that only just occurred to me. The Loki in this series is the one who grabbed the Tesseract and disappeared in Endgame right? Or am I misremembering? He is not the one who patched things up with Thor and died in Infinity War right? Does he have the memories of that one and I forgot? If he doesn’t, he basically went from being Thanos’ Lackey / would be overlord of Earth to super nice guy pretty quick. A lot of character development got lost there (again, unless I am forgetting something). ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/586 "2023-11-09T20:17:45Z")
IIRC that was addressed in the first season – he was shown what happened to the “real” Loki, reconciling with Thor and fighting (and dying) with him – and he was moved. Which makes sense, IMO – if I was shown video of my future in which I’d become a better person, I’d be pretty damn inspired to be that better person myself. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/587 "2023-11-09T20:28:22Z")
The main thing that moved him was learning he was the cause of their mother dying, as she had always been kind to him. ETA: also there were plenty of hints that just having that spear with the infinity stone affected people negatively, all the Avengers started fighting each other just by being near it. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/588 "2023-11-09T21:25:52Z")
Yes I remember that now. Thanks. Interesting point about the Mind stone also. ---
**Author:** ![Pavelb1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@Pavelb1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pavelb1)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/589 "2023-11-10T03:08:57Z")
Welp. They’ve definitely put themselves in a position to drop Majors if they want and Kang entirely Would they introduce The Beyonders? Will Loki fill the roll of Doctor Doom? Speculation I’m guessing they go even more multiverse madness in the next few films with Deadpool 3 and FF Roll everything together with Secret Wars and do a Battleworld and then reboot the MCU Only question is who fills what moving pieces ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/590 "2023-11-10T10:05:47Z")
So I guess the whole point was to make Loki the Guardian of Yggdrasil. Which sort of means Kang is no longer the big villain they had planned. Maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/591 "2023-11-10T12:50:44Z")
> [@Pavelb1](#): > > I’m guessing they go even more multiverse madness in the next few films with Deadpool 3 and FF I read a post-credit spoiler for Ms. Marvels that indicated: Kelsey Grammer portrayed Beast again, which makes us think the original X-men from the Hugh Jackman era will be coming in. Then again, Deadpool already knows about Wolverine, so I guess they are aware of them anyway? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/592 "2023-11-10T12:55:14Z")
Spoilers for the Marvels: Not quite, it was a different universe ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/593 "2023-11-10T16:36:34Z")
I feel like I need someone to explain the end to me. Did Loki use his Asgardian “energy” to remake the sacred Timeline again? Is he now essentially He Who Remains? Does the TVA still prune timelines? If so, why was Sylvie so happy at the end? If not, what do they do exactly? Is there still a multiverse? If so, what got fixed? If not, does that mean Spider-Man and What If etc. never happened? I have to admit I am confused. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/594 "2023-11-10T16:37:14Z")
Best episode of Doctor Who ever. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/595 "2023-11-10T16:51:58Z")
It was appropriately wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey. What does an Asgardian sonic screwdriver look like, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/596 "2023-11-10T19:10:19Z")
> [@sciurophobic](#): > > Best episode of Doctor Who ever. That’s exactly what I was thinking when I watched it. And presumably others must have too. It’s what the “big ideas” in Doctor Who wish they could be. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/597 "2023-11-10T20:02:11Z")
Um, that was kind of incredible. I hope this is it for Tom Hiddleston in the MCU because _that_ was a send-off. He was terrific in this episode and Loki is by far the best show and if it were a movie, it’d be in the top 5 ones in the MCU. Loved it, glad there is no season 3 coming, at least according to the creator/writer. And Disney can shove Silvi into the MCU if they are adamant they must have a Loki out there. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/598 "2023-11-10T20:27:18Z")
I should have mentioned this in my question above, despite being confused I really enjoyed this finale even while not being sure exactly what happened. I agree this at the very least should be the series finale for Loki but I could see the character reappear down the line in his current role as…caretaker of the timeline(?). ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/599 "2023-11-10T21:21:37Z")
I don’t think they are pruning timelines any more, that was kind of the whole point. As for the rest I think it leaves things up in the air enough that they can take it in any direction they want from here. Specially with regards to Kang. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625/600 "2023-11-10T22:26:27Z")
But if they really intend to quietly part ways with Jonathan Majors, they’ll have to do something with the entire arena full of Kang variants and the Council of Kangs plotting nefarious whatever. Unless they just decide “do something” boils down to “pretend that never happened”. Which would be a typically chickenshit answer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625.md?page=29) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loki-tv-series-discussion-spoilers/931625.md?page=31)