# Lolita Express flight logs (Epstein related) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 25, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049 "2025-12-25T16:18:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/1 "2025-12-25T16:18:31Z")
What would stop someone from getting on the plane and not signing the book? Or signing a fake name? Airlines have strict rules, of course, but what about private planes? And why should anyone assume there was only one flight log? I don’t see how those scratchy signatures can mean much of anything. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/2 "2025-12-25T16:21:36Z")
I assume this is yet another Epstein related thread? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/3 "2025-12-25T16:35:04Z")
Wouldn’t not signing the flight log be a violation of federal law? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/4 "2025-12-25T16:55:24Z")
What would stop someone from getting on the plane, going to Epstein Island and . . . not raping a child? Everyone should agree that the evidence that someone committed rape is evidence that someone committed rape. Not their name in a flight log or on a piece of paper or a photo of them with Epstein. ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/5 "2025-12-26T18:23:53Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > What would stop someone from getting on the plane, going to Epstein Island and . . . not raping a child? Tradition? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/6 "2025-12-26T18:32:50Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Wouldn’t not signing the flight log be a violation of federal law? Yeah flying with an incorrect passenger manifest was unfortunately much more likely to result in legal action than flying a bunch of rich scumbags to the Caribbean to rape children ☹ The pilot would have refused, taking a bribe to do so would have been incredibly risky (again unlike enabling the rape of children) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/7 "2025-12-26T18:48:59Z")
At least they’re not littering. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/8 "2025-12-26T18:51:22Z")
_“Officer Obie, did you think I was gonna hang myself for littering?”_ ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/9 "2025-12-26T21:38:51Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > What would stop someone from getting on the plane, going to Epstein Island and . . . not raping a child? A cold shower? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/10 "2025-12-26T21:42:06Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > What would stop someone from getting on the plane, going to Epstein Island and . . . not raping a child? I would say a moral center and human decency but then I remembered who I was talking about. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/11 "2025-12-27T00:03:43Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > What would stop someone from getting on the plane, going to Epstein Island and . . . not raping a child? If they became aware that children were being raped and didn’t do anything about it, while they’d be somewhat less guilty than the actual rapists, they’d hardly be innocent. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/12 "2025-12-27T13:49:28Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > What would stop someone from getting on the plane, going to Epstein Island and . . . not raping a child? Well, if I bought a ticket to Disneyland and stood in line to enter, it would be pretty strong circumstantial evidence I probably went there for the rides. Also, fuck those Nazis. I remember when one of those pig fuckers showed up at a pizza place in my city to free the children the Democrats had locked up in the basement. Anything that hurts or embarrasses Nazis is fine by me. Make them squirm and twist about every Epstein link. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/13 "2025-12-27T17:36:36Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Yeah flying with an incorrect passenger manifest was unfortunately much more likely to result in legal action than flying a bunch of rich scumbags to the Caribbean to rape children I’ve never flown on a private plane (yet). (other than a few rides in a Cessna here and there, and no one checked the flight logs). Is there some official that routinely checks the passenger manifest on private jets? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/14 "2025-12-27T17:49:41Z")
There’s probably also a difference between those who only went once, versus those who went repeatedly. Once could very easily be “This rich guy wants to take me to his private island for a good time! Sure, I’ll go!”. Maybe the guy even suspects that the “good time” is going to mostly consist of sex with hot (adult, consenting) women. But once you go once, and see the ages of all of the women, are you going to want to go again? ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/15 "2025-12-27T17:56:39Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > other than a few rides in a Cessna here and there, and no one checked the flight logs No one checked them but they existed. If you had refused to give your name for the manifest or given a name the pilot knew to be fake, the pilot would have refused to take you. As it would have been a federal crime. For a short flight on a Cessna absolutely no one would have checked them (unless it crashed of course). But for a private jet going to a US territory in the Caribbean (carrying well know individuals) it would have been taken much more seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/16 "2025-12-27T18:11:19Z")
Trump and Epstein are flying around and partying everywhere, yet trump never wants to check out his best friend’s private island? ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/17 "2025-12-28T19:18:55Z")
Maybe Epstein didn’t want Trump there. Y’know, lowers the tone. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2025, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/18 "2025-12-29T03:47:51Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > Trump and Epstein are flying around and partying everywhere, yet trump never wants to check out his best friend’s private island? One of my pet theories is that Trump was trafficking girls to Epstein so this is why he never had to go to the island. It would have been used merchandise to him. ---
**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-express-flight-logs-epstein-related/1026049/19 "2025-12-30T01:23:03Z")
18°17’59.50" N 64°49’38.22" W Epstein’s island is not big enough for a private jet to land. That would require an airstrip twice as long as the entire place. He and his guests would probably go to the airport on Saint Thomas and then take a boat or helicopter to the island itself.