# Lolita: Novel and Kubrick film

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**Created:** [March 8, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-novel-and-kubrick-film/531775 "2010-03-08T22:36:28Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lolita-novel-and-kubrick-film/531775/143 "2010-06-25T15:10:23Z")

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From the other thread on literary characters:

> [@Literary characters who come to symbolize the opposite of how they were portrayed.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/literary-characters-who-come-to-symbolize-the-opposite-of-how-they-were-portrayed/544304/100):
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> The book starts in 1947. We are given her vital statistics on her 12th birthday in partI:25. They are 27-23-29. She is 4’9" tall and weighs 78 pounds. That happens to be the exact height and weight of 12-year-old [Cameron Escalante](http://www.cameronescalante.moonfruit.com/) of _THE SUITE LIFE ON DECK: Crossing Jordin_ on The Disney Channel. She looks much younger in the YouTube reel that’s on that site than in her head shot. Check it out for the real Lolita.
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> Yes, she is a prepubescent child. But much of Humbert’s argument in the book is that she has had a variety of experiences and so have her sixth-grade classmates. Even prepubescent children were not the asexual creatures that society considered them at the time. Self-serving or not, we now that to be totally true.

But just because you’ve had sexual experiences doesn’t mean you can’t be victimized. I think the tendency for most of us is, when we conjure up a sexual abuse victim, is to think of someone fairly virginal who has few ideas about sex and who went abused says no immediately. But in real life, it’s so rarely like that. Most abuse victims are like Lolita. They may not be super pleasant and easy to identify with. They may even be manipulated into being complicit. And I think that’s why so many victims blame themselves–if society thinks that you’re not really a victim or that it’s “complicated” when stuff like this happens, I can definitely see why.

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