# London Terror Attacks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 7, 2005, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439 "2005-07-07T10:21:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/61 "2005-07-07T13:54:00Z")
> [@Podkayne](#): > > Fucking asshole terrorists. This is not how you get your way, morons. :mad: Unfortunately, they will never learn this. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/62 "2005-07-07T13:54:20Z")
The two are those absolutely confirmed by the police. The BBC won’t start using the 40 figure until it’s a solid confirmed fact. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/63 "2005-07-07T13:55:56Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > The two are those absolutely confirmed by the police. The BBC won’t start using the 40 figure until it’s a solid confirmed fact. They’re reporting they are still digging out wreckage and there are bodies. ---
**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/64 "2005-07-07T13:57:35Z")
Dutch TV says 45 deaths. [it’s not a sensation channel] Oh man. I’m so dreadfully sorry, **GorillaMan** and other UK dopers. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/65 "2005-07-07T13:57:56Z")
“Secret Organization group of al-Qaeda Organization in Europe”? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/66 "2005-07-07T14:00:34Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > 40? The BBC web site still says 2. I misquoted, sorry. That was from CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/67 "2005-07-07T14:01:02Z")
> [@Podkayne](#): > > My thoughts are with the Londopers. > > Fucking asshole terrorists. This is not how you get your way, morons. :mad: I don’t know about that. Because of 9/11 they got a holy war against the Americans on their home turf that we can’t win. And they basically got America to dethrone a secular dictator. Verdict’s still out on whether this is how they get their way. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/68 "2005-07-07T14:03:09Z")
Thanks, **gum** - I’m just assuming that everyone I know in London is OK, on the logic that I would have heard by now if it were not the case. It’s all you can do, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/69 "2005-07-07T14:06:39Z")
> [@Trunk](#): > > I don’t know about that. > > Because of 9/11 they got a holy war against the Americans on their home turf that we can’t win. And they basically got America to dethrone a secular dictator. Verdict’s still out on whether this is how they get their way. Exactly - they want to provoke a holy war, make it Christian against Muslim both nationally and internationally. Let’s not play into their hands again. The whole thing since 9/11 should have been defined as law vs criminals. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/70 "2005-07-07T14:11:42Z")
> [@chatelaine](#): > > I misquoted, sorry. That was from CNN. 33 deaths and counting according to live press conference. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/71 "2005-07-07T14:11:43Z")
I’m going to trust BBC. CNN tends to be more sensational than accurate… when it comes to terrorist attacks and tsunamis, they seem tastelessly preoccupied with body counts in their headlines. It’s disgusting. My condolonces to anyone in London or with friends and loved ones in London. I have two friends in London and will assume the best until I learn otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/72 "2005-07-07T14:13:31Z")
My most profound sympathies to all our friends in G.B. and Godspeed in getting through this most senseless and unnecessary tragedy. It’s truly depressing every time we’re reminded of just how vile men have the capacity to be. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/73 "2005-07-07T14:18:53Z")
Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/74 "2005-07-07T14:26:49Z")
Damn, this is terrible. ☹ My condolonces to those in the UK affected by this tragedy. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/75 "2005-07-07T14:28:36Z")
Another horrible, and fairly pointless, outrage. My sympathies to those affected in the UK. The most recent news reports concerning the figure of 40 fatalities apparently were sourced from an unnamed US official in contact with British police. As I post this (approx. 10:30 AM eastern time) I don’t expect a firm figure from official UK sources for a few hours yet, as examination of the bombed trains in the confined spaces of the tube tunnels will be slow going. I’ll refrain from playing the ‘guess the number of casualties’ game, but from the nature of the attacks it seems likely that the final tally of fatalities will be somewhat higher than what has been reported so far. ---
**Author:** ![Canadiangirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Canadiangirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadiangirl)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/76 "2005-07-07T14:28:37Z")
A huge Canadian fuck you … (we’re not polite all the time) to the terrorists. And all of our best wishes to everyone in England right now. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/77 "2005-07-07T14:32:26Z")
This hatred is so futile. Terrorists hate Westerners. They kill Westerners. Westerners kill them. They hate Westerners more. Westerners hate them more. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is made a sadder, more worried place, not to mention the grieving families on both sides. ---
**Author:** ![marymargaret](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@marymargaret](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marymargaret)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/78 "2005-07-07T14:44:42Z")
CNN is still saying 33 dead. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/79 "2005-07-07T14:47:37Z")
This is terrible. I hope my friends in London are OK. I hope my friend in Yorkshire didn’t go down to London to visit the BM… I am sick with dismay and concern. I am enraged that “people” should feel justified in doing something like this. I am confident in the ability of the British police and military to find the perpetrators and see justice done. My thoughts are with the UK today. I also hope that the G8 is not totally sidetracked by this (but I also don’t want it to be minimalized). ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439/80 "2005-07-07T14:48:23Z")
“World leaders condemn attacks, offer support” [http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/world.reax/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/world.reax/index.html) > [@](#): > > Terrorist acts have affected each of the nations, and the leaders are “united in our resolve” to defeat terrorism that is an attack “not on one nation, but on all nations,” the statement said. > > “We shall prevail, and they shall not,” Blair said before departing for London. Defeating terrorism is like defeating crime, it ain’t going to happen. I fear that giving people the impression that we can actually do something to forever stop these events is damaging as all hell. Bad: “We will defeat terrorists!” Good: “We will find the people behind these acts” I really thinks it makes a difference. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-terror-attacks/311439.md?page=5)