# London Underground Shut Down After Power Surges

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 7, 2005, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431 "2005-07-07T08:51:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/41 "2005-07-07T12:53:56Z")

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My thoughts and prayers are going out to Londoners, and all who have loved ones there. This is horrible. ☹

I find myself wondering just what the motive behind the attack was, do they want the war to go on for longer, with more countries jumping in, or are they drunk on their on overestimated power and not considering that such things might happen?

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/42 "2005-07-07T12:57:40Z")

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> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#):
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> I find myself wondering just what the motive behind the attack was, do they want the war to go on for longer, with more countries jumping in, or are they drunk on their on overestimated power and not considering that such things might happen?

Who’s “they” and what’s “the war”?

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**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/43 "2005-07-07T12:58:59Z")

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> [@GorillaMan](#):
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> Who’s “they” and what’s “the war”?

I believe Zabali was referring to Dax’s comment about Al Qaeda taking credit for the attack. And the war in reference would be the War in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/44 "2005-07-07T13:00:13Z")

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> [@ronincyberpunk](#):
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> And the war in reference would be the War in Afghanistan and Iraq.

That’s the problem - they’re two different wars.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/45 "2005-07-07T13:05:52Z")

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In the minds of the people claiming responsiblity though, it is just one war. Suffice it to say, that I find at this point in time whether or not I agree with the military actions in those countries, I can see that this action, if it really is Al Queida behind it, will not get them their goal. ☹

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**Author:** ![ColonelDax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@ColonelDax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColonelDax)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/46 "2005-07-07T13:15:20Z")

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Bloomberg has cited the AP quoting an unidentified U.S. law-enforcement official as saying that the bombings have killed at least 40 people.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/47 "2005-07-07T13:40:48Z")

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And ABC news now says _at least_ 43 dead.

> **[ABC News – Breaking News, Latest News, Headlines & Videos](https://abcnews.go.com/)**
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> Your trusted source for breaking news, analysis, exclusive interviews, headlines, and videos at ABCNews.com

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/48 "2005-07-07T13:50:15Z")

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> [@ColonelDax](#):
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> Bloomberg has cited the AP quoting an unidentified U.S. law-enforcement official as saying that the bombings have killed at least 40 people.

> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> And ABC news now says _at least_ 43 dead.  
> [http://abcnews.go.com/](http://abcnews.go.com/)

Clearly ABC have more balls - rather than tiresome cites, the number 43 appears on their splash on the homepage, and doesn’t seem to be mentioned anywhere else.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/49 "2005-07-07T14:03:05Z")

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Yeah, I noticed that, GorillaMan. Ya think they’d attiribute the number to somebody or something. Friggin’ editors.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/50 "2005-07-07T14:04:21Z")

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According to [The Guardian](http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523169,00.html), the 40 dead figure has come from the ambulance service speaking to Sky News.

A friend of mine who works in one of London’s hospitals says that the hospital is in a state of emergency - which means her OB/GYN dept is closed, but the staff are waiting to see if A&E need more manpower - so far they don’t.

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**Author:** ![seosamh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@seosamh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seosamh)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/51 "2005-07-07T14:48:56Z")

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Just announced at a news conference that “at least 33 dead”.

No claims of responsibility rceived so far by the police, despite the earlier (unofficial) attribution to Al-Qaeda.

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**Author:** ![pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pretend_my_name_is_witty)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/52 "2005-07-07T16:42:07Z")

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My brother phoned me earlier this morning, told me to turn on the TV to what was happening. He works five minutes from the Liverpool St. Station, and would have been on that train had he not overslept.

He was also on a train in Madrid during the terrorist attacks. Maybe it’s him they’re after.

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**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/53 "2005-07-07T19:22:46Z")

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[http://www.pfff.co.uk/weblog/archives/2005/07/surviving\_a\_ter.html](http://www.pfff.co.uk/weblog/archives/2005/07/surviving_a_ter.html)

> [@](#):
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> I boarded the train at King’s Cross after a series of line closures forced me onto a Circle Line train; little did I know at the time that this was probably the worst thing I could have done.
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> Travelling just past Edgware Road Station the train entered a tunnel. We shook like any usual tube train as it rattled down the tracks. It was then I heard a loud bang.
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> The train left the tracks and started to rumble down the tunnel. It was incapable of stopping and just rolled on. A series of explosions followed as if tube electric motor after motor was exploding. Each explosion shook the train in the air and seems to make it land at a lower point.
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> I fell to the ground like most people, scrunched up in a ball in minimize injury. At this point I wondered if the train would ever stop, I thought “please make it stop”, but it kept going. In the end I just wished that it didn’t hit something and crush. It didn’t.
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> When the train came to a standstill people were screaming, but mainly due to panic as the carriage was rapidly filling with smoke and the smell of burning motors was giving clear clues of fire.
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> As little as 5 seconds later we were unable to see and had all hit the ground for the precious air that remaining. We were all literally choking to death."

My ex girlfriend and two other friends travel through Aldgate every morning, and she works at Liverpool street. They were all late for work, or they would have been in it.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/54 "2005-07-07T20:56:02Z")

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Is this all our LondonDopers accounted for or what?

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/55 "2005-07-08T06:32:28Z")

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I just flew into London yesterday - had no idea until I got out of customs that anything had happened. The place I was supposed to be staying at was between Russell Square and Kings Cross. ::shudder:: What a nightmare. And I have to be in Edinburgh by Monday. Not the best place to be at the moment. Hope everyone is safe.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/56 "2005-07-08T16:01:13Z")

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A poster at the G’Dope Message Board linked to [A Letter To The Terrorists, From London](http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/005167.php) from _The London News Review_:

> [@](#):
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> What the fuck do you think you’re doing?
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> \<snip\>
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> [W]e’re better than you. Everyone is better than you. Our city works. We rather like it. And we’re going to go about our lives. We’re going to take care of the lives you ruined. And then we’re going to work. And we’re going down the pub.

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**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/london-underground-shut-down-after-power-surges/311431/57 "2005-07-08T16:07:56Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> A poster at the G’Dope Message Board linked to [A Letter To The Terrorists, From London](http://www.lnreview.co.uk/news/005167.php) from _The London News Review_:

I posted this in it’s entirety in another thread [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6343999#post6343999) on the dope… I love it because this is exactly what’s gonna happen in this fair city that I live in…

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