# Look, out in left field-- an atavistic idiot. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 29, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469 "2003-08-29T17:43:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/21 "2003-08-29T20:21:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*What the gays are asking us to do is approve of a lifestyle that most of us are uncomfortable with. That’s where I draw the line. \*\* 1.) There is no such thing as the “gay lifestyle.” 2.) No one gives a fuck what you accept or don’t accept. They just want the same rights as everybody else. They do not have an obligation to hide their identities from narrow-minded bigots. Gay couples deserve the same right to go to a baseball game as my wife and I do. They have the same right to hold hands or put their arms around each other. Events like Gay Day are intended to make the sight of gay couples as boring and unremarkable as the sight of straight couples. Organized events like this take the novelty of those sights. Once the initial shock value is gone, many people will begin to see how perfectly _ordinary_ it is. That is the goal. Of course there will always be morons, but that’s too damn bad, isn’t it? Why should those people’s “acceptance” be required? If someone doesn’t accept interracial couples does that mean that interracial couples should not have the right to go out in public? It;s the same with same-sex couples. Your “acceptance” simply doesn’t matter. Your fucking hang ups are your fucking problem. ---
**Author:** ![G.I.Joe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6a8cbe/32.png) [@G.I.Joe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G.I.Joe)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/22 "2003-08-29T20:28:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*1.) There is no such thing as the “gay lifestyle.” > > 2.) No one gives a fuck what you accept or don’t accept. They just want the same rights as everybody else. They do not have an obligation to hide their identities from narrow-minded bigots. Gay couples deserve the same right to go to a baseball game as my wife and I do. They have the same right to hold hands or put their arms around each other. Events like Gay Day are intended to make the sight of gay couples as boring and unremarkable as the sight of straight couples. Organized events like this take the novelty of those sights. Once the initial shock value is gone, many people will begin to see how perfectly _ordinary_ it is. That is the goal. > > Of course there will always be morons, but that’s too damn bad, isn’t it? Why should those people’s “acceptance” be required? If someone doesn’t accept interracial couples does that mean that interracial couples should not have the right to go out in public? > > It;s the same with same-sex couples. Your “acceptance” simply doesn’t matter. Your fucking hang ups are your fucking problem. \*\* Well, obviously they do give a fuck what I and other people accept, because they keep trying to push it on us. And I didn’t say gays shouldn’t be allowed to go to baseball games. And no one has a “right” to hold hands, I don’t see that anywhere in the constiution. It’s not a right, it’s just something people do. And gay couples will never seem as normal as straight couples, becaues gayness is unnatural and most people know that. I’m not saying anyone shouldn’t have the right to go out in public, just that I don’t like having their lifestyle forced down my throat. Anyway, why do gays want a day at a baseball park? I thought gays didn’t like sports? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/23 "2003-08-29T20:29:48Z")
Is there any chance the website is a parody specifically designed to get homophobes to click on gay porn? The rest of the links seem genuinely Christian conservative, but you can never be sure. If it is indeed a hack, it’s a damn funny one, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/24 "2003-08-29T20:54:44Z")
> [@](#): > > **GIJoe** :I thought gays didn’t like sports? Just poor sports, dear. **mhendo** , the sheer stupidity of it made me suspect a prank even before the porn redirect showed up. (“EVOLUTION’S KANGAROO SCIENCE: THE ROOT OF THE NEW MONKEY MORALITY!” It sure _looks_ like parody.) Anyway, the slob in the sweatshirt really is a self-described “christian,” although the bulk of his web presence seems to be geared toward [using religious affiliation](http://christianremodeling.com/Advertise.cfm) to [promote](http://www.christianwebworks.com/index.htm) [business](http://www.christianhomeservices.com/). (There are some references missionary work in the Ukraine, to be fair. I do find the idea of exporting Christian missionaries to a predominately Catholic region kind of funny, though. 😕 ) ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/25 "2003-08-29T21:03:55Z")
> [@](#): > > The rest of the links seem genuinely Christian conservative, but you can never be sure. Actually, now I’m _not_ so sure. Take a look at the very bottom of [another of his pages](http://www.christianpainters.com/index.html). Stealthy? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/26 "2003-08-29T23:07:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by G.I. Joe \* > \*\*Well, obviously they do give a fuck what I and other people accept, because they keep trying to push it on us. And I didn’t say gays shouldn’t be allowed to go to baseball games. And no one has a “right” to hold hands, I don’t see that anywhere in the constiution. It’s not a right, it’s just something people do. And gay couples will never seem as normal as straight couples, becaues gayness is unnatural and most people know that. > > I’m not saying anyone shouldn’t have the right to go out in public, just that I don’t like having their lifestyle forced down my throat. > \*\* I think it would be better if left-handed people were somehow prevented from writing, especially in public; left-handedness isn’t terribly common and I don’t like it and anyway, nobody has the ‘right’ to write, I don’t see that anywhere in the constitution. It’s not a right, it’s just something people do. And left-handed people will never seem as normal as right-handed ones because left-handedness is somewhat unusual and most people know that. I’m not saying that left-handed people shouldn’t go out in public, I just don’t like having their lifestyle forced down my throat. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/27 "2003-08-29T23:13:59Z")
I was about to call **G.I. Joe** a moron, but it seems he only managed to last for 12 posts. Good riddance to bad rubbish. ---
**Author:** ![Muldoon\_s\_Squishiness](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/13edae/32.png) [@Muldoon\_s\_Squishiness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muldoon_s_Squishiness)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/28 "2003-08-30T02:23:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mhendo \* > \*\*I was about to call **G.I. Joe** a moron, but it seems he only managed to last for 12 posts. > > Good riddance to bad rubbish. \*\* But… but… he’s a REAL AMERICAN HERO leading us in the fight against Cobra!! Speaking of which, does that mean that Cobra is somehow aligned with Al Qaida or Saddam Hussein? I haven’t seen the Cobra Commander or Destro on a pack of playing cards, but I’ve been busy lately. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/29 "2003-08-30T02:37:40Z")
The petition form no longer displays names, and no longer redirects to porn. But I did still sign as “Donald Felcher”. Hooray for immaturity. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/30 "2003-08-30T03:28:09Z")
Is there ANYTHING more pitiful than an online petition? BTW, I was under the impression that I managed to read most if not all of GI Joe’s posts and, while he is a moron, in the past that wasn’t a bannable offense. Has the banning of december gone to the admins’ heads and will they now ban everybody to the right of Ted Kennedy? 😉 And what was it with GI Joe’s fixation with gays? I mean, even his name referred to his rectum. :rolleyes: AND I was EVER so pissed when GI Joe started fighting COBRA rather than the Russkies or Red Chinese, who we were still cold-warring with. Little did I know that Hasbro was 20 years ahead of the curve by leading the fight with International Desert Terrorists With Cool Vehicles. At the time terrorists seemed to mostly be unpleasant students in the PLO, IRA, and Bader Meinhof Gang and I didn’t see Joe protecting discos from briefcase bombs. They did miss the boat with the cool vehicles, though. I don’t remember Hasbro offering a beatup Toyota pickup full of guys with AK-47s. ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/31 "2003-08-30T05:58:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BogieBlanca \* > **But… but… he’s a REAL AMERICAN HERO leading us in the fight against Cobra!!** Considering the bitching, I don’t think he goes in for the snakes, if you get what I mean. Nudge nudge, wink wink. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/32 "2003-08-30T06:22:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \* > \*\*Look, out in left field-- an atavistic idiot. \*\* Hey now, even if you think Gay Day the greatest thing since sliced wonder bread and the petition the work of people who rode the short bus to school, I see NO reason to libel Donnie Sadler. ---
**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/33 "2003-08-30T07:25:12Z")
Gay Day? Is that like Bat Day, only I get some gay guy if I’m the first X hundreth person to buy a ticket? ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/34 "2003-08-30T13:30:16Z")
I think they did that once, but it resulted in disaster when people started throwing their gays on the field after some poor play. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/35 "2003-08-30T14:42:04Z")
> [@](#): > > Sodomy is a perverted lifestyle Jesus saves What is he saving it for? A rainy day? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/36 "2003-08-30T15:06:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > **BTW, I was under the impression that I managed to read most if not all of GI Joe’s posts and, while he is a moron, in the past that wasn’t a bannable offense. Has the banning of december gone to the admins’ heads and will they now ban everybody to the right of Ted Kennedy? 😉** I think that [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=3912921#post3912921) might have had something to do with it: > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by G.I. Joe_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by Uncle Tony_ > > \*\*I think the real question is: why do gays feel the need to slide their schlongs up each other’s bungholes? > > Actually, that is a really good question. I have not seen it answered. Why do some men feel the desire to insert their rigid rods of throbbing man-meat into other men’s feces-encrusted sphincters, then thrust rhythmically until their engorged balls and rock-hard erections erupt, spewing forth copious amounts of hot sticky love-juice into their partners’ eagerly awaiting rectums?\*\* As someone else suggested in that thread, i think **G.I. Joe** was showing some strong signs of repressed homosexuality here! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/37 "2003-08-30T15:17:21Z")
Oh, and by the away, it seems that our friend **G.I. Joe** , after he was banned, re-enrolled under the name **Gastrointestinal Joseph** (very droll). And this **G.I. Joe, Mk. II** only lasted 13 posts, including [this gem](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=3914900#post3914900): > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Gastrointestinal Joseph_ > **All Iraq needs is for some gays to get in there and redecorate the place. Once they spread gayness in Iraq, the men there will be so busy doin’ the butt bongo that they won’t have time for violence.** and [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=3914943#post3914943): > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Gastrointestinal Joseph_ > \*\*I think the pledge should read like this: > > “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Straights of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all, and no homosexuality.”\*\* Can anyone say one-trick pony? Let’s hope he’s had his fun and stays away from now on. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/38 "2003-08-30T17:24:47Z")
What’s the fuss? Besides, we all know that Baseball went completely gay back in 1977. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/39 "2003-08-30T17:53:03Z")
Please. Did you see the outfits they were wearing back then? No self respecting gay guy would be caught dead in those light blue road uniforms, or the brown and yellow San Diego unis. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469/40 "2003-08-30T18:33:43Z")
(I signed the petition as “Ima Peeing”. But there was no re-direct to a hard-core gay porn site. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.) I had to go look at the Kangaroo Science and Monkey Morality article; this quote is tempting me to change my sig line: > [@](#): > > \*\* > ‘The conclusion is inescapable…we are BORN PERVERTS.’ \*\* Well, duh. ( **Chimera** , at least Mike Piazza and Billy Beane are gay; as for the rest, I don’t really know.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/look-out-in-left-field-an-atavistic-idiot/198469.md?page=3)