# Looking for a non-cat Kliban cartoon (pie, diner)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 23, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183 "2016-06-23T21:20:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/21 "2016-06-24T17:24:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> groin  
> grin  
> carnal  
> sin  
> pretty  
> city  
> grandma’s titty

my fave

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/22 "2016-06-24T17:53:24Z")

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I have many favorite Kliban cartoons but near the top of the list is [Fuck this primitive shit!](https://mlkshk-ada.kxcdn.com/r/UK34)

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**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/23 "2016-06-24T19:48:53Z")

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While we’re out searching for Kliban cartoons, has anyone run across a digital copy of the one from Playboy showing a flavor list on the wall of an ice cream parlor that says “Corn, Wood, Liver, Vanilla”, and the caption is the employee’s comment to the patron “We’re out of vanilla…”?

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**Author:** ![Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90ced4/32.png) [@Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waltzes_with_Cacti)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/24 "2016-06-24T20:52:11Z")

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> [@Mixolydian](#):
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> While we’re out searching for Kliban cartoons, has anyone run across a digital copy of the one from Playboy showing a flavor list on the wall of an ice cream parlor that says “Corn, Wood, Liver, Vanilla”, and the caption is the employee’s comment to the patron “We’re out of vanilla…”?

Yes, **Mix** , I saw that one in at least two places yesterday when I was looking for Beowulff’s $10k slice of pie. Try googling and if you can’t find it come back here and let me know and I’ll scout it out for you. It’ll be a present from me for your tenth anniversary on the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/25 "2016-06-24T21:22:11Z")

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> [@Mixolydian](#):
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> While we’re out searching for Kliban cartoons, has anyone run across a digital copy of the one from Playboy showing a flavor list on the wall of an ice cream parlor that says “Corn, Wood, Liver, Vanilla”, and the caption is the employee’s comment to the patron “We’re out of vanilla…”?

> [@Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](#):
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> Yes, **Mix** , I saw that one in at least two places yesterday when I was looking for Beowulff’s $10k slice of pie. Try googling and if you can’t find it come back here and let me know and I’ll scout it out for you. It’ll be a present from me for your tenth anniversary on the SDMB.

[Beatcha to it!](http://blog.belm.com/wp-content/uploads/kliban.png)

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/26 "2016-06-24T21:54:57Z")

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In my search, I came across [this collection](http://comics-scans.livejournal.com/132552.html) of good ones (Map Filth: “Hey Europe, eat my Florida!”). And now the last one, “Bad Pun disturbing a Rhyme,” is bothering me. Any guesses on what it’s supposed to mean?

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/27 "2016-06-25T02:54:01Z")

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I don’t recall that caption on any Kliban cartoon.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/28 "2016-06-25T03:10:10Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> I don’t recall that caption on any Kliban cartoon.

Me, neither. It’s a bit too narrative for him. Maybe Gahan Wilson, instead?

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/29 "2016-06-25T12:36:01Z")

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Or Shel Silverstein?

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**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/30 "2016-06-25T12:50:59Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Me, neither. It’s a bit too narrative for him. Maybe Gahan Wilson, instead?

Do you recall the G.W. cartoon about the lady of the manor and the delphinium bed? One of my favorites.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/31 "2016-06-25T17:51:06Z")

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I’ve gone through my George Booth and my Gahan Wilson books as well as all my Klibans and I haven’t seen this cartoon yet. I _have_ spent a few awesome hours looking at some of the best damn cartoons ever created, tho, so it hasn’t been a total loss… 😃

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/32 "2016-06-25T18:21:48Z")

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As **terentii** noted, it was in Playboy (which is where I must have seen it). I wonder if it never made it into any collections.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/33 "2016-06-25T19:52:45Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> As **terentii** noted, it was in Playboy (which is where I must have seen it). I wonder if it never made it into any collections.

I considered briefly that it may have been a Gary Larson cartoon, but no luck in searching that archive, either.

Thinking about the issues of _ **Playboy** _ I had before I started buying them regularly (1983–2007), the cartoon _may have_ appeared in the April or August '79 issue (PoMs Missy Cleveland and Dorothy Stratten), but this is merely a guess based on my impression of them.

Two other possibilities: May 1977 (Shiela Mullen) and December 1981 (Patricia Farinelli), but these are less likely.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/34 "2016-06-25T19:56:28Z")

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One other possibility: November 1977 (Rita Lee). I didn’t own many copies before 1983, but I definitely remember having this one and those above. The time frame is about right, too.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/35 "2016-06-25T20:25:02Z")

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This is so weird! I can see the cartoon clearly in my mind’s eye: It was a b&w line drawing in the lower left-hand corner of a left-hand page. For some reason, I associate it with the summer of '79, which was a busy time in my life. I was into Kliban at the time, too, which may be why the memory is so strong.

Anyway, the above issues do supply some kind of starting point. I’d look first in the August '79 issue. The alternative is to start slogging through every issue from January 1983 on. (Not an entirely unpleasant task :o, but I just don’t have the time!)

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/36 "2016-06-27T16:54:54Z")

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I think this cartoon may have been one of those in the limited-edition series _14 Klibans of gentlemen in a fancy pie diner_.

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**Author:** ![Mixolydian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Mixolydian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mixolydian)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/37 "2016-06-27T18:38:13Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [Beatcha to it!](http://blog.belm.com/wp-content/uploads/kliban.png)

> [@Waltzes\_with\_Cacti](#):
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> Yes, **Mix** , I saw that one in at least two places yesterday when I was looking for Beowulff’s $10k slice of pie. Try googling and if you can’t find it come back here and let me know and I’ll scout it out for you. It’ll be a present from me for your tenth anniversary on the SDMB.

Muchas gracias, guys! Going up on my cube wall 😃

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/38 "2016-06-27T19:51:05Z")

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Speaking of B. Kliban and King Kong…

[![](https://img1.etsystatic.com/110/0/9388389/il_570xN.933862499_3ezh.jpg) ](https://img1.etsystatic.com/110/0/9388389/il_570xN.933862499_3ezh.jpg)

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/39 "2016-07-04T02:53:10Z")

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Well, I am losing hope of ever finding it.  
I was in a very cool bookstore today ([Arcana](https://www.arcanabooks.com), in Culver City), and happened to see the book "playboy 50 years the cartoons.” I looked up all the Kliban entries in the index, and it wasn’t in the book. I then leafed though the book, in the off chance that it was another artist, and didn’t see it anywhere.

_sigh_

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-a-non-cat-kliban-cartoon-pie-diner/758183/40 "2016-07-04T02:59:01Z")

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Kliban also drew for the National Lampoon, and I’m pretty sure that was where this cartoon appeared.

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