# Looking for input, Should I sing this song to my Son. y/n?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 27, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175 "2003-01-27T05:32:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kaje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f04885/32.png) [@Kaje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaje)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/21 "2003-01-27T16:37:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Skordopordonikos \*  
> **hhhhmm, if I was obviously trying to crave attention, as you so astutely suggested, I’d use poorly spelled references from another language… no wait, that’s your specialty.**

maybe he was mangling latin instead… making you the de jure idiot as opposed to de facto. Idiot of the day? No big deal. Court-appointed idiot… that’s an accomplishment.

😉

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/22 "2003-01-27T16:49:36Z")

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May I suggest Only a Lad from **Oingo Boingo** as a possible alternative.

\*Johnny was bad.  
Even as a child everybody could tell  
Everyone said, “If you don’t get straight you’ll surely go to Hell.”  
But, Johnny didn’t care.  
He was an outlaw by the time that he was ten years old.  
He didn’t wanna do what he was told.  
Just a prankster.  
A juvenile gangster!

The lady down the block  
She had a radio that Johnny wanted, oh, so bad  
And so he took it the first chance he had  
And then he shot her in the leg  
And this is what she said

(Chorus):

Only A Lad  
You really can’t blame him  
Only A Lad  
Society’s made him  
Only A Lad  
He’s our responsibility  
Only A Lad  
He really couldn’t help it  
Only A Lad  
He didn’t wanna do it  
Only A Lad  
He’s underprivileged and abused  
Perhaps a little bit confused

And when he stole the car  
Nobody dreamed that he would try to take it so far  
He didn’t mean to hit the poor man  
Who had to go and die  
It made the judge cry

(Chorus):

It’s not his fault that he can’t behave  
Society’s made him go astray  
Perhaps if we’re nice he’ll go away  
Perhaps he’ll go away, he’ll go away…  
\*

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/23 "2003-01-27T18:19:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Kaje \*  
> \*\*maybe he was mangling latin instead… making you the de jure idiot as opposed to de facto. Idiot of the day? No big deal. Court-appointed idiot… that’s an accomplishment.
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> 😉 \*\*

While the OP may be a industrial grade idiot (watch the backpedalling in his other OP, its fun), I am not sure he is good enough for a court appointment. Sorry about the destruction of Latin.

As for the OP, try getting your facts straight and using an accurate thread title before attempting clever. We have plenty of clever people here and you do not compare well. Also, we have plenty of knee jerk right-wing wack jobs (and left-wing wack jobs, and quite possibly moderate wack jobs) all of which do a much better job of it. Heck, **december** looks like a Pulitzer Prize winner in comparison.

Thanks for playing “Skordopordonikos”.

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![martin\_ibn\_martin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@martin\_ibn\_martin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martin_ibn_martin)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/24 "2003-01-27T18:29:05Z")

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My oldest son’s favorite lullaby was “Tom O’Bedlam”

“My staff has murdered giants  
My bag a long knife carries  
For to cut mince pies from children’s thighs  
With which to feed the faeries”

and other charming verses

hehe

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/25 "2003-01-27T18:46:59Z")

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HEY **Skordopordonikos**! You’re a Dickhead. Is that French enough for you? :wally :wally :wally :wally :wally

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/26 "2003-01-27T18:58:31Z")

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oh I get it.  
he doesn’t subscribe to liberal ideology.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/27 "2003-01-27T19:15:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*oh I get it.  
> he doesn’t subscribe to liberal ideology. \*\*

So you like the song, then?

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**Author:** ![Dryga\_Yes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@Dryga\_Yes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dryga_Yes)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/28 "2003-01-27T19:39:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*oh I get it.  
> he doesn’t subscribe to liberal ideology. \*\*

you win the thread.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/29 "2003-01-27T19:41:21Z")

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You see Colibri, (and stay with me here), I don’t think he sings the song at all (i know! It’s weird)…rather, he wrote the song as a clever vehicle for his protestations against what he sees to be liberal viewpoints towards crime and punishment.

He lured us in, and before we knew it, we were subject to his manifesto…and perhaps by putting it in childish terms, we would see how bizarre the liberal attitude can be.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/30 "2003-01-27T20:01:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*You see Colibri, (and stay with me here), I don’t think he sings the song at all (i know! It’s weird)…rather, he wrote the song as a clever vehicle for his protestations against what he sees to be liberal viewpoints towards crime and punishment.
> 
> He lured us in, and before we knew it, we were subject to his manifesto…and perhaps by putting it in childish terms, we would see how bizarre the liberal attitude can be. \*\*

So you liked the song, then?

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/31 "2003-01-27T20:03:50Z")

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Fuck no. i hate rabbits.

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**Author:** ![Skordopordonikos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Skordopordonikos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skordopordonikos)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/32 "2003-01-27T20:29:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*You see Colibri, (and stay with me here), I don’t think he sings the song at all (i know! It’s weird)…rather, he wrote the song as a clever vehicle for his protestations against what he sees to be liberal viewpoints towards crime and punishment. \*\*

RofL… When my daughter was three, two of the three songs she asked me to sing over and over AND OVER ack… was:

This posted version of ‘Little Bunny Foofoo’.  
and ‘What Do You Do With a Drunken Sailor’?

The third song was ‘One Sunny Day’ A long sing/response song about meeting a bear in the woods and the attempt to get away… (I’ll stop here, don’t want to give the end away)

Well, child number two in now almost three and ‘One Sunny Day’  
is the song he most recently has been requesting (Itsy Bitsy Spider, Muffin Man, etc. seem to be falling out of favor.)

I sang pretty much everything to my daughter, and had no major restrictions regarding her access to TV and movies, so long as she watched it with either her mother or father to help her understand what she was watching. She was reading adult level books (not adult content, books like LoTR, etc) by the time she was seven.

Since she could basically talk, she has had a ‘unique’ viewpoint on ethics ala ‘Bill Clinton’. When she was three I saw her spill milk on the floor and asked her why she did it. She looked me in the eye and said that she didn’t spill the milk. After a series of Q&A I’d find out that since the glass slipped, it wasn’t on purpose, since it wasn’t on purpose, she didn’t do it. She would be upset if I accused her of lying. She really, REALLY is wired this way.

So, I’m wondering if it’s a hardware/software problem.  
Is she like this because of her genetic makeup, or exposure to ethically ambivalent material has ‘rolled’ what in my younger D&D days was referred to as a ‘chaotic neutral’ char.

As for Bosda, if youre going to switch to such intellectual pinnacles as ‘dickhead’… well I’ll have to escalate it to two or three ‘yo mamas’.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/33 "2003-01-27T20:33:03Z")

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But you seem to have no problem _encouraging_ her “wiring.”

It seems you really do have to be “carefully taught.” :rolleyes:

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Protesilaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Protesilaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Protesilaus)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/34 "2003-01-27T21:05:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kallessa \*  
> **See, this is how insensitive I am, when I hear _fairy_ I think Tinkerbell, not homosexual, so I didn’t know what Number Six was talking about.**

Same here. I mean, when you’ve got shotgun-toting bunnies, little winged pixies aren’t out of the question.

Oh, and the song blew.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/35 "2003-01-27T21:28:52Z")

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I speak a little French. You’re an assbite, pardon my French.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/36 "2003-01-27T22:10:41Z")

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And to think, the worst song I taught my babies was:

Wake up Jacob  
Daddy shot a bear.  
Shot him in the bumhole  
Never moved a hair.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/37 "2003-01-27T22:30:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Skordopordonikos \*  
> **Is she like this because of her genetic makeup, or exposure to ethically ambivalent material has ‘rolled’ what in my younger D&D days was referred to as a ‘chaotic neutral’ char**

So you mean, is it due to you acting like a dipshit in front of her, or her inheriting your dipshit genes? That is a puzzler, no question about it.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/38 "2003-01-28T00:10:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*oh I get it.  
> he doesn’t subscribe to liberal ideology. \*\*

'Course, in his [other thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=158342), he comes across as a bit to the left of **Chumpsky** (combined with a bit of megalomania and fabulism). So I guess he’s an anti-liberal leftist.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/39 "2003-01-28T02:32:36Z")

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Introduce your child to “The Wiggles”. Maybe. They’re cool.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-input-should-i-sing-this-song-to-my-son-y-n/151175/40 "2003-01-28T02:46:44Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by GuanoLad \*  
> \*\*Introduce your child to “The Wiggles”. Maybe. They’re cool. \*\*

Oh yeah…four “bachelors” hanging out with talking dogs, dinos…and a friendly “pirate”.

No gay subtext there. 😉

Ehh BabyMaeve loves 'em.

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