# Looking for metal. Got some?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 3, 2004, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437 "2004-01-03T05:36:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/21 "2004-01-08T18:25:08Z")

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I’ve heard some Sentenced. Besides a few tracks off their new album, I’ve heard the cover they did of Billy Idol’s _White Wedding_. Any suggestions for tracks/albums I should hear?

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/22 "2004-01-08T18:32:35Z")

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Century did a couple of Sentenced reissues with two albums packaged together. _Amok_/_Love & Death_ is the one I’d recommend.

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**Author:** ![sc913](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@sc913](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sc913)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/23 "2004-01-08T18:52:39Z")

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Great suggestions, **Lord Ashtar**. How I adore Amorphis! Some great stuff from **ultrafilter** too.

To the OP: If you happen to like **In Flames** , check out **Dark Tranquility**. I think they’re miles better. Try Projector, The Gallery, Damage Done… They all sound quite similar actually but these are my faves. **At the Gates** were pretty good in that style as well. **Amon Amarth** are kinda similar too, check out _The Avenger_ and _Versus the World_

**ultrafilter** already recommended **Therion** , but I’d recommend _Theli_ instead of _Vovin_. Speed metal opera… sheer heaven :).

I will second (or third or whatever) **Katatonia, The Gathering, Opeth, Agalloch, Anathema** and especially the utterly magnificent **Arcturus** … Both _Le Masquerade Infernale_ and _The Sham Mirrors_ are among my favourite albums.

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**Author:** ![summerjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@summerjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/summerjack)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/24 "2004-01-08T19:14:30Z")

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Lord Ashtar, I feel obligated to back you up on Opeth’s Damnation. Not technically “metal” but what a wonderful album. “Death Whispered a Lullaby” and “To Rid the Disease” are so hauntingly beautiful.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/25 "2004-01-08T20:11:50Z")

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I listened to **Amorphis** when they first came out and loved their first 2 albums. I hadn’t heard them in years and recently borrowed an album from a friend. I swore they put the wrong music on the CD or the wrong band was printed on the label.

They _drastically_ changed their sound right?

By the way I must plug **Bolt Thrower** (who’s logo is tattooed on my back from shoulder to shoulder) and **Napalm Death**.

Grindcore and essential listening for people who enjoy their music on the harder side.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/26 "2004-01-08T20:17:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*I listened to **Amorphis** when they first came out and loved their first 2 albums. I hadn’t heard them in years and recently borrowed an album from a friend. I swore they put the wrong music on the CD or the wrong band was printed on the label.
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> They _drastically_ changed their sound right?\*\*

It’s kinda funny–if you listen to all of Amorphis’ albums in order, you’re not going to see too many big jumps in their style (the biggest is between _Tales from the Thousand Lakes_ and _Elegy_), but they did go from being death metal to prog metal. I like it all, so it’s no big deal to me.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/27 "2004-01-08T21:50:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ultrafilter \*  
> \*\*It’s kinda funny–if you listen to all of Amorphis’ albums in order, you’re not going to see too many big jumps in their style (the biggest is between _Tales from the Thousand Lakes_ and _Elegy_), but they did go from being death metal to prog metal. I like it all, so it’s no big deal to me. \*\*

After making this comment, I went back and listened to a few songs off each of their first three albums, and I’ve changed my mind. The biggest jump in musical style was from Karelian Isthmus to Thousand Lakes, but the jump from Thousand Lakes to Elegy sounds bigger cause they went from death vocals to clean.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2004, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/28 "2004-01-08T22:45:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by summerjack \*  
> \*\*Lord Ashtar, I feel obligated to back you up on Opeth’s Damnation. Not technically “metal” but what a wonderful album. “Death Whispered a Lullaby” and “To Rid the Disease” are so hauntingly beautiful. \*\*

Thank you. One of the Yahoo! Groups I participate in is dedicated to Opeth, and most of the folk on there hated it. I went to see a show they did in DC a few months ago where they played Damnation from beginning to end along with _Benighted_, a cover of Deep Purple’s _Solider of Fortune_, and _Face of Melinda_. For the whole show, people were yelling out, “Demon of the Fall!” “Black Rose Immortal!” “Serenity Painted Death!”

So naturally I concluded that my brother and I were in the minority of people who like that album. Good to know we’re not alone.

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**Author:** ![Rock-n-Rolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@Rock-n-Rolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rock-n-Rolga)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/29 "2004-01-09T02:21:34Z")

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Don’t think anyone has mentioned **Paradise Lost** yet, but they’re one of the more inflential bands of the genre, launching many sound-alikes while never getting much fame outside of certain European markets. IMO, Katatonia based much of their earlier sound in large part on the PL ‘Shades of God’ album. Like Amorphis, they have also shifted their style from rather brutal Death/Grindcore to a more spare, moody, Depeche Mode-influenced sound with clean vocals. I recommend ‘Icon’, the aforementioned ‘Shades of God’ or ‘Draconian Times’ as the highlight releases of their career. Their last album ‘Symbol of Life’ isn’t bad - it’s more guitar-based than the two that came out before it, which were heavy on the keyboards and downright Pop-esqe in places.

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**Author:** ![Rock-n-Rolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@Rock-n-Rolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rock-n-Rolga)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/30 "2004-01-09T02:32:59Z")

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And oh yeah, speaking of more bands in the vein you’re looking for, you might want to check out **Rapture, Summoning, October Tide, Diabolique** and the mighty **Saturnus**! Some of them may be a bit hard to locate, but they’re well worth the search.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/31 "2004-01-09T12:54:57Z")

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Oh man! How did I forget Paradise Lost and Rapture? I just found Rapture about six months ago and I am still totally into their album _Songs for the Withering_. Great stuff.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/32 "2004-01-09T13:48:01Z")

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How about **My Dying Bride** , they had a violin player!

Aside for keeping up with the latest BT and ND albums, I’ve been out of the loop for years.

Ah the days when I listened to Suffication, Pungent Stench, Disharmonic Orchestra, Macabre, Atrocity, Mortification, Immolation, etc etc.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/33 "2004-01-10T00:57:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rock-n-Rolga \*  
> \*\*And oh yeah, speaking of more bands in the vein you’re looking for, you might want to check out **Rapture, Summoning, October Tide, Diabolique** and the mighty **Saturnus**! Some of them may be a bit hard to locate, but they’re well worth the search. \*\*

Okay, how is it that I’ve never heard of **Saturnus** before? I’ve borrowed a CD from a buddy of mine and these guys kick ass!

Also, I should probably mention **Porcupine Tree**. They started off very Pink Floydish, but have gotten heavier on their last two albums. I highly advise everyone to listen to their song _The Sound of Muzak_ of the album _In Absentia_ Great stuff.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-metal-got-some/222437/34 "2004-01-10T01:03:29Z")

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Hey, as long as you guys are in the mood to recommend metal, I could use some help over [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=234133).

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