# Looking for old Mac game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 29, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028 "2004-03-29T05:10:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/1 "2004-03-29T05:10:05Z")

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from the late 80’s, a Prince-of-Persia type involving jumping, swinging, switches and whips.

Somewhere in the late 80’s/early 90’s a friend of mine had a Mac (or an Apple… what’s the difference?), with this Prince-of-Persia type game involving (IIRC) jumping, swinging, switches and whips, all through a big castle type level.  
I’ve always thought Apple made a decent machine, but was never willing to shell out for one. Given that my neighbour is ditching a Macintosh Centris 660, I figure the price is right. 😉 Now if I can just remember what the game is called, I have half a chance of playing it again!

Tips on downloading old Mac games would be welcome too. The only place I’ve heard of is [the underdogs](http://www.the-underdogs.org/), but it appears to be PC only.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/2 "2004-03-29T05:21:50Z")

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Was it in a castle? And there was a catacombs which was one of 4 sections of the castle to go through? I remember it if it was…Give me some time and the name will come.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/3 "2004-03-29T05:26:25Z")

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Sounds like you’re talking about Dark Castle or Beyond Dark Castle. They’re pretty primitive by today’s standards, but they were quite fun in their day. I doubt they would run on modern Mac hardware (especially the older Dark Castle, which was made for the nine inch black-and-white Mac screen), but one can dream.

Anyway, there’s a division of The Underdogs just for us Mac guys. It’s at [mac.the-underdogs.org](http://mac.the-underdogs.org/).

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/4 "2004-03-29T05:27:32Z")

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Dark Castle or the sequel Beyond Dark Castle (that’s the one I had). Here’s some screenshots to the latest version, the upcoming[Return to Dark Castle](http://www.zsculpt.com/website/games/darkcastle3/darkcastle3.html)

The second and third screenshots look the same as the old version.

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**Author:** ![scm1001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@scm1001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scm1001)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/5 "2004-03-29T12:50:26Z")

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Lost treasures is a good site. see [http://www.abandonware-france.org/ltf-rubriques.php3?genre=mac](http://www.abandonware-france.org/ltf-rubriques.php3?genre=mac) for old mac games, which also has prince of persia download (because it is in french look for telechargement for “download”)

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/6 "2004-03-29T17:27:56Z")

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> [@Nanoda](#):
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> Somewhere in the late 80’s/early 90’s a friend of mine had a Mac (or an Apple… what’s the difference?) …

Ahem.

The Apple Computer company produces the Macintosh family of computers, which has a lineage stretching back to 1984 — or even earlier, if you include the design years before the computer’s public release. However, the company was originally founded to produce a computer called simply the _Apple_ computer, later renamed the Apple **I** after the introduction of the **Apple II** in 1977, which was an instant runaway hit.

The Apple II was one of the most successful 8-bit computers of the late 1970s and early 1980s, and various models were in production all the way through 1993. It was definitely not a Mac in any sense. It had more in common with the Commodore 64, TRS-80, and the first IBM PC. That is: a 40/80-column character-cell screen for text, graphics modes with relatively coarse resolution and small color palettes, crude audio output, and disk storage dominated by 5-1/4 inch floppy disks. Software and hardware designed for the “Apple” (meaning the Apple II family) were in general not usable with the Macintosh.

I realize that it’s now 2004, and many people familiar with the Macintosh now would not necessarily be aware of the Apple II, or that the name _Apple_, for a computer, ever referred to anything besides a Mac. Aside from me, you probably won’t find many who care about the distinction. But it’s there nonetheless, and I felt compelled to point it out. (I can be insufferable that way.)

Sorry. Back to the thread as scheduled.

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**Author:** ![Nanoda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Nanoda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanoda)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/7 "2004-03-30T07:39:50Z")

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Nifty… thanks guys! I found an updated demo, and the sound effect smacking a mouse with a rock confirms it’s the game. 😉 Now I just need to get my hands on the original version…

As for age vs. playability, I would posit that if you haven’t played at least one of the [Space Quest](http://games.sierra.com/games/spacequest/) series of games, you’ve missed out on fun an order of magnitude larger than you’re getting right now. 😃 A fun game 15 years ago is a fun game today!

Oh, and **Bytegeist** - despite using the Apple II, IIc, IIgs, Mac Classic and others, I really was asking. Not a very clear cut distinction for anyone who hasn’t kept up on the corporation. I imagine some Mac people probably say the same about IBM and PCs…

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lodoen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b3f665/32.png) [@Jeff\_Lodoen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lodoen)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2004, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-mac-game/237028/8 "2004-03-30T09:21:15Z")

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Dark Castle was also ported to Amiga, Atari, and the Apple IIGS… in color! Apple was last of course…

Dungeon of Doom was my other MacFavorite.
