# Looking for old Ruins, Caves or Mysterious places to see

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**Created:** [February 9, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-ruins-caves-or-mysterious-places-to-see/712187 "2015-02-09T04:11:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eric1970](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@Eric1970](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1970)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-ruins-caves-or-mysterious-places-to-see/712187/1 "2015-02-09T04:11:34Z")

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I’m looking for locations in the New England that has been lost and forgotten. Have been researching old ruins, King Phillips Caves and Haunted locations to visit. A few of my recent reference books have been by Scott Walter, Robert CaHill and local maps for my research. I’m currently trying to find a Dolmen stone in Westport MA with no luck and a Alter Stone in Dartmouth. I’m looking for idea’s to investigate. Any help would be greatly appreciated

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-ruins-caves-or-mysterious-places-to-see/712187/2 "2015-02-09T04:33:52Z")

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Hello and welcome to the Dope. Most of the other posters are much nicer than me.

I do have to ask if you understand that most places that are lost and forgotten are actually lost and forgotten?

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-ruins-caves-or-mysterious-places-to-see/712187/3 "2015-02-09T04:44:53Z")

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[This](http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/10858) place really strikes you.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-ruins-caves-or-mysterious-places-to-see/712187/4 "2015-02-09T14:11:28Z")

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There are lots of Mysterious Stone Constructions. Go to Mystery Hill in Salem, New Hamposhire, now called _America’s Stonehenge_. It’s a construction of massive stones (sand lots of little ones) that has a mysterious past. True Believers think that it’s aligned with important calendar events, like midsummer sunrise or midwintersunset, and the owners of the site have gone so far as to cut broad avenues through the surrounding woods so that you can go there are see for yourself. There aren’t huge trilithons at Stonehenge, but simple smallish boulders marking these points, forming a rather meandering stone loop (if not a circle) Other stones form a set of underground chambers and an “altar” (that skeptics say is a colonial lye-extracting stone). The orthodox view is that much of this is the work of earely settler named Pattee (who admittedly did live on the site), aided by amateur archaeologist Goodwin. Goodwin throught these were the work of a bunch of medieval Irish monks who colonized New England. It didn’t help that he “reconstructed” many of the supposed ruins himself.  
Personally, I think there’s more here than Pattee could or would have done, and there are supposedly photos of the pre-Goodwin site showing monumental structures already in place. It’s good for a nice walk in the country on a spring or fall day.

Some people think that this may have helped inspire H. P. Lovec raft’s _The Dunwich Horror_, but Lovecraft scholar S.T. Joshi says he didn’t visit the site until after he wrote that story. Nevertgheless, it’s intereting to lookl at the depiction of "THe Devil’s Hop Yard\* as shown in the 1970 foilm of The Dunwich Horror, and look at the signbificant differenbce between fiction and reality.

Even if Lovecraft didn’t visit Salem, there were other such places he knew of. Have a look at Gungywamp. in Groton, Connecticut.

> **[Gungywamp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gungywamp)**
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> Gungywamp /ˈɡʌndʒiwɒmp/ is an archaeological site in Groton, Connecticut, United States, consisting of artifacts dating from 2000-770 BC, a stone circle, and the remains of both Native American and colonial structures. Besides containing the remains of houses and storage structure, the Gungywamp site has a double circle of stones near its center, just north of two stone chambers. Two concentric circles of large quarried stones – 21 large slabs laid end to end – are at the center of the site.
> The...

And, even though they’re all-natural, Polar Caves in Rumney NH:

> **[Polar Caves | Rumney, NH](https://polarcaves.com/)**
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> Polar Caves | Rumney, NH

The Flume in the White Mountains:

> **[The Flume Gorge Lincoln NH NH – Attractions for People With Disabilities](https://nhtourguide.com/wp/places/lincoln/the-flume-gorge-lincoln-nh-2/)**
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> The Flume Gorge at Franconia Notch State Park in Lincoln, NH is a naturally made gorge created by glaciers. The walls of granite rise to a height of 90 feet and range from 12 to 20 feet apart.

and Lost River Gorge in Kinsman’s Notch NH

[http://www.findlostriver.com/about.php](http://www.findlostriver.com/about.php)

If you want more mysterious Work of Manm, have a look at Dighton Rock

> **[Dighton Rock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dighton_Rock)**
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> The Dighton Rock is a 40-ton boulder, originally located in the riverbed of the Taunton River at Berkley, Massachusetts (formerly part of the town of Dighton). The rock is noted for its petroglyphs ("primarily lines, geometric shapes, and schematic drawings of people, along with writing, both verified and not."), carved designs of ancient and uncertain origin, and the controversy about their creators. In 1963, during construction of a coffer dam, state officials removed the rock from the river Th...

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**Author:** ![cjepson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@cjepson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cjepson)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-ruins-caves-or-mysterious-places-to-see/712187/5 "2015-02-09T16:38:34Z")

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Well, in Rhode Island, there’s the [Newport Tower](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_Tower_(Rhode_Island)), which has a number of theories regarding its origin (although, as is usually the case, the most likely is also the least interesting). You could also check out [Abandoned Rhode Island](http://www.tumblr.com/search/Abandoned+Rhode+Island)(disclaimer: A lot of these places may be illegal to enter).

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looking-for-old-ruins-caves-or-mysterious-places-to-see/712187/6 "2015-02-09T19:06:06Z")

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[Atlas Obscura](http://www.atlasobscura.com/) has some neat stuff.
