# Looks good....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609>\
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**Created:** [September 6, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609 "2017-09-06T05:15:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/81 "2017-09-06T12:32:07Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Purchased?
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> _Purchased?!_

It’s ok, the Mexicans are paying for it.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/82 "2017-09-06T12:34:17Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> I’m unsure if I like it, but I’m sure I’ll get used to it. At any rate, I agree with you, in that I no longer need my glasses to read the board. Not now, anyway; wait a few years and I will need them again.

Do you guys know that your browser has a text resize function? Holding control and using the scroll wheel resizes text.

I think some of the people pleased with these changes simply were not using that function. To those of us who already found a good text size to element size ratio this just makes it unfixably ugly.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/83 "2017-09-06T13:30:05Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> … and just as an extra added bonus, ads are now appearing interspersed between the ugly giant-font posts, despite the latest version of Adblock Plus being told to block everything! ☹

Yeah, I’m now seeing a bunch of ads where I never did before. I’m not crazy about the overall look, but I imagine it’s just a matter of getting used to it. But the ads, well, no!

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/84 "2017-09-06T13:30:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Unless they’re still making changes (since I never use it and didn’t look until I read this), I have it, it’s right there at the bottom.
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> Edit…yup, they’re still making changes, one of those ‘go to top’ arrows just showed up, I fucking hate those. Get rid of that, I really, really hate those go to top buttons. I never use them and they irrationally distract me.
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> Edit 2: You edited your post and the change was reflected in my post…I don’t like that either. Not in this case, it’s no big deal, just in general. That could have some nasty ramifications.
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> I’m curious what happens if people mess around with editing/changing/snipping quotes and then the author changes it, or the other way around. If they keep that feature, it’s something to play with.

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Well, given this forum’s (still rather absurd) 5-minute edit window, I can’t see it causing that much trouble. Big honkin’ banana creme pies.

Lets keep in mind, however, that this bug/feature was discovered within an hour or so of the new format going live. The reason given for the short edit window was because of the ‘fast moving discussions’ and that was a perfect example of one.  
If it happened that quickly, it’s going to become an annoyance fairly quickly, especially given how many people edit their posts when trying to keep up with a conversation. I know I do.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/85 "2017-09-06T14:20:01Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Do you guys know that your browser has a text resize function? Holding control and using the scroll wheel resizes text.

What, I have to resize text every time I come to a Dope page, and then resize back on every other page afterwards? Fuck that noise. Plus if I resize so the post texts are sensibly-sized, quoted text becomes too tiny to read.  
How about geriatric mobile users with vision issues learn to use dedicated board software rather than their browsers, instead?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/86 "2017-09-06T14:21:34Z")

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Chrome does per-site text resizing, I think.

And I wasn’t directing my comment towards people who don’t like the new look. I was trying to be helpful to people who seem to like the new look simply because it looks like windows safe mode or Baby’s First Bulletin Board and thought it was an improvement because things were bigger - I thought they might not know about text resizing.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/87 "2017-09-06T14:23:13Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Chrome does per-site text resizing, I think.
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> And I wasn’t directing my comment towards people who don’t like the new look. I was trying to be helpful to people who seem to like the new look simply because it looks like windows safe mode or Baby’s First Bulletin Board and thought it was an improvement because things were bigger - I thought they might not know about text resizing.

I see that now - sorry if I came across as unnecessarily abrasive, there. Clearly this new look has me all riled up 🙂

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/88 "2017-09-06T14:25:12Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Do you guys know that your browser has a text resize function?

Yeah, and the text in quote boxes is smaller than the text outside of them. So you’re stuck with one being too big, or the other being too small.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/89 "2017-09-06T14:33:45Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Yeah, and the text in quote boxes is smaller than the text outside of them. So you’re stuck with one being too big, or the other being too small.

The text on the forum pages is smaller too. Zoom out to 90%, and the thread titles on the forum pages are downright minuscule.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/90 "2017-09-06T16:02:05Z")

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Hmm, people complaining about giant font size. I’m getting the opposite on classic Opera. Too small a font. I hate playing with zoom levels. Too many things get messed up.

And since this is my first reply since the change, I now see the reply box is incredibly narrow\*. Less than a third of the width of the screen. What the what? It used to be basically full width. No reason at all for it to be so narrow.

Also: quoted text is now italicized. Um, it shouldn’t be changed at all. That’s board rules for a reason.

- I see this narrow column look on too many websites today. Even for phones and such that’s _not_ the websites call. That’s the browser’s job. If you’re tweaking basically what is a single column width at the server end, _you’re doing it wrong_.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/91 "2017-09-06T16:04:01Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Agreed.

Hey, I didn’t even know I had a signature! I must correct that!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/92 "2017-09-06T16:07:17Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> And since this is my first reply since the change, I now see the reply box is incredibly narrow\*. Less than a third of the width of the screen. What the what? It used to be basically full width. No reason at all for it to be so narrow.
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> - I see this narrow column look on too many websites today. Even for phones and such that’s _not_ the websites call. That’s the browser’s job. If you’re tweaking basically what is a single column width at the server end, _you’re doing it wrong_.

Check your editor setting. Upper right corner of the reply box are 2 "A"s (set like a fraction), you switch editor mode there.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/93 "2017-09-06T16:14:04Z")

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Horrendous. I feel like I’m trapped in a giant, never-ending Greek flag.

Also, on a real computer’s screen, the text is too small in the forum menu, and too big in the posts. I could get used to that, but please do something about the navy blue bars!

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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/94 "2017-09-06T16:41:53Z")

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Looks like a way to make sure that ads aren’t blocked. Ok. I understand that. If I’m not paying, then I’m seeing ads. But can they at least not be the same ad, every 5 posts? I really don’t want a Google tablet, and that’s not going to change in 5 more posts.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/95 "2017-09-06T16:49:08Z")

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> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#):
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> Looks like a way to make sure that ads aren’t blocked. Ok. I understand that. If I’m not paying, then I’m seeing ads. But can they at least not be the same ad, every 5 posts? I really don’t want a Google tablet, and that’s not going to change in 5 more posts.

You can manually block the ads, it’s for a device that’s no longer produced, and seems to be a placeholder ad. How _that_ slipped past TPTB, I have no idea.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/96 "2017-09-06T17:53:08Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Do you guys know that your browser has a text resize function? Holding control and using the scroll wheel resizes text.
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> I think some of the people pleased with these changes simply were not using that function. To those of us who already found a good text size to element size ratio this just makes it unfixably ugly.

Firefox does (but no telling how long that will last past Firefox 57). Chrome just has full page zoom, unless you install an addon that only sorta works (and causes the text to “jump” to the changed size every time the page loads.)

That said, I use exactly such an extension: [NoSquint Plus for Chrome](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nosquint-plus/jidjekdcooppfeggehblbigabhaihkgj?hl=en). I currently have my screen at 125% real zoom and 120% text zoom. (My monitor is about 3 feet away from my face.)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/97 "2017-09-06T18:12:52Z")

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It might be a change for the better, but I’m not particularly happy about the fact that it defaults to showing my .sig line. I kinda liked not having to think about that. Can this be turned off?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/98 "2017-09-06T18:17:44Z")

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Changes? There were changes?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/99 "2017-09-06T18:20:04Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I feel like I’m trapped in a giant, never-ending Greek flag.

We demand Grexit! 😃

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-good/795609/100 "2017-09-06T18:29:44Z")

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Unfortunately, trying to just copy back the theme from the old version doesn’t quite work. The actual layout has changed. For example, he reason for those blue bars on every post is that they are now the same class as, say, the Quick Reply header. And a lot of the old CSS just doesn’t apply at all, the stuff on top completely unstyled. [It’s not pretty](https://imgur.com/pxNmWGZ).

It seems easier just to try and tweak the new style than to use the old directly. But I’m not 100% sure how much time I plan to devote to this. And it would be wasted if the TPTB fix some of this up. So I’ll probably just do minor stuff, for now at least.

(They really should have allowed the regular users to see the test board, even if they couldn’t log in.)

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