# Looks like Iraq had a missle deal with North Korea with the help of Syria

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2003, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216 "2003-12-01T07:06:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/41 "2003-12-03T00:43:34Z")

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_and poor Uday was gelded  
by a disease he caught in Hong Kong_

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**Author:** ![\_possum\_stalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/b77776/32.png) [@\_possum\_stalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_possum_stalker)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/42 "2003-12-03T00:46:42Z")

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Dammit, now I’m tittering.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/43 "2003-12-03T00:53:41Z")

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[Tie a po’ dong?](http://www.cdiss.org/99june25.htm)

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/44 "2003-12-03T00:58:12Z")

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> Uranium? -no. Nukes? -no, Anthrax and smallpox? -no. Sarin, VX, and mustard? no. Long range missiles? -no. UAV’s? -no. Threat to the US? -no. Threat to the region? -no.

**Bill Clinton** disagreed with you and had said so publically:

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> “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity  
> to  
> develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver  
> them. That  
> is our bottom line.”
> 
> - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
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> “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is  
> clear. We  
> want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of  
> mass  
> destruction program.”
> 
> - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

(If you want to verify either just take one phrase and plug into google)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/45 "2003-12-03T01:30:18Z")

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OK, so Bill Clinton was full of shit as well. Whoop-de-fuck-a-doo!

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/46 "2003-12-03T01:40:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elucidator \*  
> \*\*OK, so Bill Clinton was full of shit as well. Whoop-de-fuck-a-doo! \*\*

That’s probably so, but Bill Clinton never peed his pants over possible Iraqi WMD’s, and he didn’t try to frighten millions of Americans into terrified belligerence.

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/47 "2003-12-03T02:02:18Z")

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Hydrocortisone, you’re still a moron.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/48 "2003-12-03T02:41:58Z")

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> _Originally posted by Bill Clinton_  
> “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
> 
> “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”

So, Clinton said this five years ago. Now, after we’ve invaded the nation at great cost of lives and money, we find that there are no WMDs in Iraq. Could this possibly mean that Clinton was able to prevent Iraq from developing a WMD program without dragging the US into a costly, largely solitary war with no end in sight?

'Course not. That’d mean Clinton had actually done something right as president, and God knows no Republican would ever admit that, even if plied with hot pokers.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/49 "2003-12-03T04:23:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*'Course not. That’d mean Clinton had actually done something right as president, and God knows no Republican would ever admit that, even if plied with hot pokers. \*\*

Clinton gave the order to end the intentional scrambling of the GPS signals, meaning that my Garmin went from having an EPE of 50-75ft to an EPE of 9-15ft.

That’s good! 🆒

Now, it’s your turn. Admit, without sarcasm, something Bush did that was right.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/50 "2003-12-03T04:38:24Z")

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He has never been known to wear brown shores with a blue suit.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/51 "2003-12-03T04:39:48Z")

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“Shoes”, of course. Brown shoes. Sheeesh.

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**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/52 "2003-12-03T16:46:06Z")

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I like the fact that Bush waited ten months before naming a successor to the departed Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs.

In the meantime, a thirty-something former Hill staffer has been running the Bureau of Indian Affairs in an acting capacity, allowing American Indians and other Native Americans to bask in the warm glow of negligent antipathy rather than outright maliciousness.

I thought the visit to Baghdad was pretty cool.

I generally liked the unmanned space exploration proposal made earlier this year, even though it will never be implemented.

Bush has inspired one of the largest recycling efforts this country has ever undertaken: the re-issuance of refurbished Dan Quayle jokes on late-night variety shows.

If that sounds disingenuous, well, you’re damned right it is. From my limited perspective _nothing_ has happened in the past three years which is of benefit to me or anyone I know. This may be worthy of another thread, but I’m seriously willing to contemplate some of the good things this President has done. Right now, I really can’t think of many.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/53 "2003-12-03T16:57:13Z")

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There is the nuclear propulsion initiative. Bush deserves kudos for having the balls to go with the logical next step there.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/54 "2003-12-03T17:04:13Z")

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He’s gonna pilot the first one? Way cool! Tomorrow?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/55 "2003-12-03T18:00:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sofa King \*  
> **I like the fact that Bush waited ten months before naming a successor to the departed Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs.**

C’mon, is there actually pressing, urgent new business in this area? I dislike Bush quite a bit, but was there any need to hurry up and fill this post?

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/56 "2003-12-03T18:25:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> \*\*C’mon \*\*

[Big Ongoing Lawsuit](http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2002/0923/news-int-09-23-02.asp).

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-iraq-had-a-missle-deal-with-north-korea-with-the-help-of-syria/216216/57 "2003-12-03T18:31:39Z")

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I sit corrected.

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