# Looks like umkay is back, so we may as well get this thread started... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 15, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570 "2013-07-15T16:39:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/341 "2013-07-16T15:45:18Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Of course, I was wrong here, and it turns out everyone else was right, but what I don’t really see, is how their (ultimately correct) conclusions were based on sound evidence. > > No, I’m not in the market for bridges, i just don’t see how the story was so very implausible at the start It’s not implausible by itself. Apparently, it was all the “coincidences” together. The similar first post, the similar circumstances, the similar name to another poster here, the similar behavior. Taken as a whole, it seems pretty telling. And I still think it’s the first troll _pretending_ to be bad a trolling. That added to the game if she had pulled one over on everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/342 "2013-07-16T15:46:46Z")
> [@Tequila\_Party](#): > > Weren’t you one of the posters who originally believed her shtick? Nope. I am however one of the posters who didn’t believe it was umkay. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/343 "2013-07-16T16:00:15Z")
> [@jaymac1](#): > > [http://imgur.com/4B040Jj](http://imgur.com/4B040Jj) Aw man, this one is gone. I missed all the fun. Anyone got it cached if it’s worth it? What was it? ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/344 "2013-07-16T16:04:50Z")
I think I might be suffering from post-trollum depression. ---
**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/345 "2013-07-16T16:06:02Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Aw man, this one is gone. I missed all the fun. > > Anyone got it cached if it’s worth it? What was it? I had to crtl-shift-tab about a dozen times, but here it is: [![](https://i.imgur.com/8XrVzWH.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/8XrVzWH.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/346 "2013-07-16T16:06:25Z")
Not that it matters at this point, but being 18 at this time of year, you ain’t going to be in 6th form. The final exams finished in June, so any 18 year olds would have left a month or so ago. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/347 "2013-07-16T16:06:41Z")
> [@Tequila\_Party](#): > > It’s not implausible by itself. Apparently, it was all the “coincidences” together. I guess what I’m trying to take away here, is whether I was too gullible, or if everyone else was too cynical, but just happened to be right this time. > [@](#): > > The similar first post, the similar circumstances Sure, but young disabled people exist, and devotees exist - and are a genuine problem that people ask about. > [@](#): > > the similar name to another poster here I don’t see any striking similarities in either the real-life names (between the troll and **Ambivalid** or the usernames (of the troll and the other troll). jaymac1 vs umkay or Jaymie McInnery vs Jamie McGarry. Those last two are as different as John Smith and John Brown. > [@](#): > > the similar behavior. Taken as a whole, it seems pretty telling. Perhaps that’s where I’m missing out. I never really saw any of the umkay stuff - aware of it as an item of board history, but don’t recall being involved or many of the exact details. If, hypothetically, a genuinely disabled person came here and asked for advice about a genuine concern they had about devotees, would that person just be written off as a troll now? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/348 "2013-07-16T16:07:17Z")
> [@Mithras](#): > > I had to crtl-shift-tab about a dozen times, but here it is: > > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/8XrVzWH.jpg) I don’t see any hand controls. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/349 "2013-07-16T16:09:00Z")
> [@Mithras](#): > > I had to crtl-shift-tab about a dozen times, but here it is: > > [Imgur: The magic of the Internet](http://i.imgur.com/8XrVzWH.jpg) Bwa ha ha ha! Oh that’s good. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/350 "2013-07-16T16:09:41Z")
Awesome. Above average trolling really. Props for actually finding a selfie pic that’s not Google-searchable (yet). ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/351 "2013-07-16T16:11:00Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Of course, I was wrong here, and it turns out everyone else was right, but what I don’t really see, is how their (ultimately correct) conclusions were based on sound evidence. > > No, I’m not in the market for bridges, i just don’t see how the story was so very implausible at the start For me, the first implausibility, and the strongest one, is the fact that this person posted this question on this board, not on [one of the many boards](https://www.google.com/search?q=paraplegic+support+groups&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) where an informed answer might be found. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/352 "2013-07-16T16:11:21Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > I don’t see any hand controls. Do you see the dealer’s paper floor protector with the foot drawings on the drivers side? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/353 "2013-07-16T16:13:40Z")
> [@jaymac1](#): > > Aye Quakers Golden Syrup flavour, delicious. Aha! No true Scot eats sweetened porridge. Fuckin’ nicked. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/354 "2013-07-16T16:13:59Z")
The car on an incline out the passenger side and the three cars for sale in the mirror were a nice touch, too. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/355 "2013-07-16T16:15:26Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I guess what I’m trying to take away here, is whether I was too gullible, or if everyone else was too cynical, but just happened to be right this time. They were suspicious because **jaymac1** showed up with a story and a persona that was very, very similar to **umkay** ’s. I guess that’s bad luck for **jaymac1** , who was not nearly as good a faker. I don’t think **umkay** ever disclosed her supposed real name or home town. The general thing to do is to be more skeptical (not necessarily hostile) of a story the more unusual it is. > [@](#): > > If, hypothetically, a genuinely disabled person came here and asked for advice about a genuine concern they had about devotees, would that person just be written off as a troll now? Probably. But then again, if a disabled person were really having a problem with devotees, why would they come here instead of a board for disabled people- where posters might have relevant experience? All of which assumes this is a significant problem for people with disabilities, and I don’t know if it really is. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/356 "2013-07-16T16:15:28Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I guess what I’m trying to take away here, is whether I was too gullible, or if everyone else was too cynical, but just happened to be right this time. I’m just a cynical asshole that happened to be right. Oh, and I’m a cunt as well, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/357 "2013-07-16T16:15:32Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Nope. I am however one of the posters who didn’t believe it was umkay. This seemed to be like you did. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > For someone who’s more than ready to shit on other people, you sure are touchy about having your motives questioned. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/358 "2013-07-16T16:15:43Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > For me, the first implausibility, and the strongest one, is the fact that this person posted this question on this board, not on [one of the many boards](https://www.google.com/search?q=paraplegic+support+groups&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) where an informed answer might be found. Yeah, but why is that implausible? We must get other people asking other questions they would be better off taking to another community - and we don’t assume they’re trolls. Should we? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/359 "2013-07-16T16:15:47Z")
[=96592024&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0"]hate duckface]([http://s681.photobucket.com/user/kayaker01/media/chair\_zps5ac68fce.jpg.html?filters](http://s681.photobucket.com/user/kayaker01/media/chair_zps5ac68fce.jpg.html?filters)[user) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2013, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570/360 "2013-07-16T16:16:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Do you see the dealer’s paper floor protector with the foot drawings on the drivers side? I was blinded by the Hi-Viz upholstery. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-umkay-is-back-so-we-may-as-well-get-this-thread-started/663570.md?page=19)