# Looks like we dodged a bullet (no debate here)

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 2, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087 "2010-05-02T23:50:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/41 "2010-05-04T02:35:19Z")

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It looks now like the buyer of the SUV is a man of Pakistani descent, not the white dude in his 40s seen removing his shirt as he walked away from the vehicle.

[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100504/ap\_on\_re\_us/us\_times\_square\_car\_bomb](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100504/ap_on_re_us/us_times_square_car_bomb)

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/42 "2010-05-04T03:07:57Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> Im betting someone is protesting the IRS again.
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> An individual phoned 911, told the operator to shut up while he gave the pertinent details and then hung up. Had it been of mid eastern persuasion, the device would have worked as planned, but as the cops say, this looked amateurish.
> 
> Declan

\*\*The sport utility vehicle used in Saturday’s attempted attack was recently sold to a man described as Hispanic or Middle Eastern, the sources told [Reuters](http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64100G20100504?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews).  
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Turns out it’s the usual suspect after all. Sport utility vehicles.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/43 "2010-05-04T03:54:28Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> (ETA: And I don’t understand why ‘witnessing’ has to be about religious proselytizing…seems rather unfair, since that would mean I’m not allowed to do it, being an agnatheist and all)

What definition of witnessing are you using?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/44 "2010-05-04T05:07:16Z")

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[Arrest made](http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/04/new.york.car.bomb/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1). Cops have one man in custody, looking for another. Possible tie to Pakistan.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/45 "2010-05-04T13:12:36Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> \*\*The sport utility vehicle used in Saturday’s attempted attack was recently sold to a man described as Hispanic or Middle Eastern, the sources told [Reuters](http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64100G20100504?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews).  
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> Turns out it’s the usual suspect after all. Sport utility vehicles.

The guy is of Pakistani ethnicity, so not the M.E. 😉

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/46 "2010-05-04T15:02:14Z")

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Wow. They actually arrested the guy _as the plane he was on was taxiing on the tarmac_ before takeoff to Dubai.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/47 "2010-05-05T01:09:40Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Looks like Glenn Beck is gonna lose yet another viewer soon.

Care to revise and extend your comments?

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/48 "2010-05-05T01:29:44Z")

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I forget. Why does Pakistan hate us again? It’s hard to keep track of 'em all.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/49 "2010-05-05T01:36:24Z")

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They have an abiding hatred of fast food?

-XT

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/50 "2010-05-05T01:42:12Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I forget. Why does Pakistan hate us again? It’s hard to keep track of 'em all.

My guess is they think we aren’t doing enough with the drone attacks, and are killing too few civilians.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/51 "2010-05-05T02:04:58Z")

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On reflection, it could be that they hate us for our…  
…FFFRRRRREEEEEEDDDDDOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!..  
-XT

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/52 "2010-05-05T02:31:18Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Care to revise and extend your comments?

Mea culpa. I don’t know what I was thinking in assuming that a terrorist nutjob originally described as a white man would have anything to do with the voice of reason that is Glenn Beck. After all, its not like any of his viewers have ever gone off the deep end before.

> **[Glenn Beck: "Nutjob" In Pittsburgh Not My Fault, I'm Just A "Flight Attendant"](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/glenn-beck-nutjob-in-phil_n_184205)**
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> Glenn Beck: "Nutjob" In Pittsburgh Not My Fault, I'm Just A "Flight Attendant"

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/53 "2010-05-05T02:49:02Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Care to revise and extend your comments?

I just figured he meant that the kind nutjob who would watch Glen Beck is the kind of person who would try to blow up an SUV in Times Square.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/54 "2010-05-05T02:59:33Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> I just figured he meant that the kind nutjob who would watch Glen Beck is the kind of person who would try to blow up an SUV in Times Square.

And he was wrong. So, your point is…?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/55 "2010-05-05T03:20:02Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> And he was wrong. So, your point is…?

Well, do we even know he’s wrong? For all we know the guy could have TiVoed all of Glen Beck’s shows at home.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/56 "2010-05-05T03:39:49Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> Well, do we even know he’s wrong? For all we know the guy could have TiVoed all of Glen Beck’s shows at home.

You’re right. We should look at the facts. I’m open to whatever facts there are that this guys was Glenn Beck fan. And if there aren’t any, then that original post has no merit.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/57 "2010-05-05T03:40:49Z")

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I’m not saying he was or that he wasn’t. Just that I interpreted the original post as just sort of being a joke–you’d have to be insane to watch Glen Beck.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/58 "2010-05-05T04:16:25Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> I’m not saying he was or that he wasn’t. Just that I interpreted the original post as just sort of being a joke–you’d have to be insane to watch Glen Beck.

I’m puzzled why you would make such a reach of an argument when that poster made an obviously serious, though feeble. attempt to defend that original post in post 52.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/59 "2010-05-05T12:51:16Z")

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I don’t know. I’m not really all that invested in this–I just thought it was funny. Anyway, let’s move on to more important matters. Like was Hank Hill _really_ in the alley when this was going down? _Really_?

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-we-dodged-a-bullet-no-debate-here/538087/60 "2010-05-05T13:09:24Z")

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Glenn Beck viewer. heh that’s funny. Kinda like Hollywood films having German terrorists for fear of upsetting certain other more likely groups. Anyway, given that the terrorist had obtained US citizenship and your ongoing war against terrorism, could he / should he be charged with treason?

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