# Loopiest far-right beliefs? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 17, 2021, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490 "2021-11-17T07:07:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/61 "2021-11-18T04:25:23Z")
I would say the Putin supporters are the equivalent of our far right. I’m not sure how to “officially” describe them other than as Putin supporters, political parties in Russia work very differently than they do in the US. Most of the Russian conspiracy theories involve the persecution of Russia by US and other Western countries - supporting Putin’s own Big Lie narrative of a Russian under assault by Western liberalism. Other conspiracy theories involve the opposition groups that are a thorn in Putin’s side. There are also lots of pedophilia panic conspiracy theories, which the government uses as a cover for the persecution of Russia’s LBGT population. I don’t believe the last one is mentioned in this article, but it’s mentioned in some of the books I’ve read on modern Russian society. > **[Russian conspiracy theories: how Kremlin-backed yarns help keep Vladimir...](https://theconversation.com/russian-conspiracy-theories-how-kremlin-backed-yarns-help-keep-vladimir-putin-in-power-103006)** > > If you think Americans are suckers for conspiracies theories, you ought to hear some of the theories that are popular in Putin’s Russia. The conspiracy theories and those who believe them may be even more prevalent in the Russia than they are in the US, largely due to the lack of free press to push back against the false narratives. Apparently they’ve had the same problems with Covid denialism and other Covid and anti-vaxx conspiracy theories as the US. > **[How The Kremlin’s Years of Conspiracy Spreading Are Biting Back - The Moscow...](https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/03/01/how-the-kremlins-years-of-conspiracy-spreading-are-biting-back-a73111)** > > Opinion | A whopping 64% of Russians believe that the coronavirus was invented in a lab, while just 23% believe it appeared naturally. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/62 "2021-11-18T04:35:51Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Pro-vaccine conservatives like Mitch McConnell, who should be calling out colleagues who foster opposition to vaccination, are loath to do so. - Surprising considering how loathsome he is. ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/63 "2021-11-18T10:44:25Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I would say the Putin supporters are the equivalent of our far right. I’m not sure how to “officially” describe them other than as Putin supporters, political parties in Russia work very differently than they do in the US. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/65 "2021-11-18T11:27:59Z")
The Arizona “election audit” team [was searching for traces of bamboo fibers](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/06/arizona-republicans-bamboo-ballots-audit-2020) on ballots to prove that they were from China. Because all of China is basically a jungle, and the illegal ballots were shipped to remote bamboo huts to be marked by trained pandas. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/66 "2021-11-18T13:25:03Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > This is indeed crazy, but is it only a ‘far right’ thing? Vax hesitancy is greater on the far right for sure, but it isn’t limited to them. For example vax hesitancy based on conspiracy theories is pretty rampant in the black community, and they are overwhelmingly Democrats. There are also a lot of anti-vax union people with exemptions because they have political clout. They are overwhelmingly Democrats, but IMHO they aren’t liberals in the sense we currently use the word. This is why the Democrats have a bigger long term electoral problem than Republicans do. A lot of minorities who vote Democratic are playing the same game that conservative whites are playing, just for a different team. If Republicans ever stop pushing them away because of the color of their skin, Democrats are going to have a big problem. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/67 "2021-11-18T14:36:22Z")
Yes, from what I have heard, Icke himself is not a hateful racist or antisemite. He’s just a bit loopy! ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/68 "2021-11-18T14:46:07Z")
Yes, Republicans believe that the only reason they can’t win minority voters is because of their resistance to minority voter’s complaints of racism. We’re a pretty weird country culturally and still way too conservative overall for my liking. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/69 "2021-11-18T17:49:49Z")
Josh Hawley apparently believes that he’s attuned to the masturbatory habits of contemporary males. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/70 "2021-11-18T18:28:28Z")
Well, he **is** a world-class jerk-off. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/71 "2021-11-18T18:52:56Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > I cannot understand why anyone would vote for these people. I have a theory: “All my neighbors are rabid, chest-pounding republicans. And each of them has one or two dozen guns, at least two of which they carry around all the time. I can’t say anything slightly lacking in testosterone lest they get all up in my face. If the R candidate were to lose, they’d all come after me. I don’t want to get blamed for the wrong guy getting in office, so I have to vote R.” I mean, it is a caricature, an exaggeration, but I do suspect that there is some of that going on to at least some extent. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/72 "2021-11-18T19:33:38Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I don’t want to get blamed for the wrong guy getting in office, so I have to vote R.” I’d vote D, but claim to have voted R if it was life or death. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/73 "2021-11-18T19:38:44Z")
If the D wins, the Rs will send in election auditors, who will pore over the ballots and identify the people who voted for the D, so my neighbors will find out. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/74 "2021-11-18T19:46:33Z")
When and where has this happened in the United States? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/75 "2021-11-18T19:46:55Z")
Well, it looks like Republican state governors have identified a novel way of increasing the number of Republican voters in their states - offer to relocate people with sought-after professions (law enforcement, of course) who are resisting the vax mandates elsewhere…maybe this will offset some of the COVID deaths in their states… > **[Tennessee governor invites unvaccinated out-of-state cops to join its highway...](https://www.npr.org/2021/11/18/1056888935/tennessee-governor-invites-unvaccinated-out-of-state-cops-to-join-its-highway-pa)** > > In a video, Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee invited police officers from New York to Los Angeles to join the Tennessee Highway Patrol, saying that "we won't get between you and your doctor." ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/76 "2021-11-18T19:59:33Z")
I certainly hope this is a worse case scenario. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/77 "2021-11-18T19:59:52Z")
I personally am not aware of this happening. Still, in Texas, I am not sure how people think, especially when living in the midst of Texans. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/78 "2021-11-18T20:03:19Z")
I live in Texas too, and I think your fears are far overblown. If the Trumpers want to identify every Democrat from anonymous votes and make them pay, they’d have a tougher task of doing so than Bletchley Park trying to crack Enigma during WWII, especially given that millions of Texans vote Democratic. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/79 "2021-11-18T20:04:23Z")
The election audit nutcases in AZ were trying to do just this. A few more of them get into local elections positions of power and maybe it’s not blocked. The point is, they very very much want to do this right now, if they were allowed to. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/80 "2021-11-18T20:23:22Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Because all of China is basically a jungle, and the illegal ballots were shipped to remote bamboo huts to be marked by trained pandas. That wouldn’t have worked at all. Ship bamboo ballots to pandas? They would have just eaten them (and the bamboo huts too). ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490/81 "2021-11-18T20:35:19Z")
Wasn’t Lyndon Larouche the looniest? I seem to recall he said the Queen was a drug dealer, and at that time, that was considered out there [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loopiest-far-right-beliefs/954490.md?page=5)