# Loosing vs. Losing

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 19, 2016, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036 "2016-10-19T15:57:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/21 "2016-10-19T18:20:51Z")

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Clothes/cloths is another one.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/22 "2016-10-19T18:37:38Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> Not related, but, people who add apostrophes to words that end in ‘s’ like get’s or eat’s.

or decades, like the 1980s.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/23 "2016-10-19T18:42:33Z")

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Actual email received by me yesterday:

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> Should there be apostrophe’s in “avocado’s” below?
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> “The trick to making perfect guacamole is using good, ripe avocado’s. Check for ripeness by gently pressing the outside of the avocado’s.”

I appreciate that she asked the question, but it’s the “apostrophe’s” that makes me cringe.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/24 "2016-10-19T18:44:03Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Clothes/cloths is another one.

That one is hard for me. But I’m aware of it and try to figure it out before I made a mistake.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/25 "2016-10-19T18:48:58Z")

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I think the reason many people spell “lose” as “loose” and “losing” as “loosing” is because they’re thinking of the pronunciation/spelling of “choose” and “choosing.”

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/26 "2016-10-19T18:56:39Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> Actual email received by me yesterday:
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> > [@](#):
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> > Should there be apostrophe’s in “avocado’s” below?
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> > “The trick to making perfect guacamole is using good, ripe avocado’s. Check for ripeness by gently pressing the outside of the avocado’s.”
> 
> I appreciate that she asked the question, but it’s the “apostrophe’s” that makes me cringe.

Maybe she thinks there should be apostrophes?

Along with clothes/cloths, I’ll add breathe/breath.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/27 "2016-10-19T19:38:49Z")

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And I give you the Grand Poobah: there/their/they’re

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/28 "2016-10-19T20:58:03Z")

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> [@Machine\_Elf](#):
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> or decades, like the 1980s.

That’s one of those things that, for a while at least, was a quasi-accepted style. An apostrophe “offsetting” numbers and sometimes acronyms like “CD’s” or “DVD’s”. I used to do it, but I don’t anymore as I think it’s cleaner and _more_ correct to just write “80s” vs. “80’s”. But I don’t think it’s necessarily _wrong_ to do so, so when I see it I try not to let it bother my pedantry meter too much.

I know this one alone could be a whole thread topic for debate.

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/29 "2016-10-19T21:54:29Z")

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The one that’s currently grating on my nerves is the usage of the phrases “should of/would of/could of”.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/30 "2016-10-19T22:04:35Z")

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> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> The one that’s currently grating on my nerves is the usage of the phrases “should of/would of/could of”.

I agree. The correct form is shoulda/woulda/coulda.

😃

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/31 "2016-10-19T22:16:28Z")

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Jibe and gibe.

As for the OP, I’m at a loess.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/32 "2016-10-19T22:29:17Z")

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My husband almost lost his shot with me back in college, when he wrote on my dorm whiteboard: ‘‘ **Spice** , I think I am loosing my mind.’’

The message was creepy enough without the error.

I am, generally speaking, a descriptivist, but there are certain cases in which inaccuracy hampers communication, and this is one of them.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/33 "2016-10-19T22:33:35Z")

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I should speak up about quiet/quite.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/34 "2016-10-19T22:36:58Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I should speak up about quiet/quite.

Quite, you!

(I suspect autocorrect is not helping in any of these matters.)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/35 "2016-10-19T22:40:44Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> Quite, you!
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> (I suspect autocorrect is not helping in any of these matters.)

More like autoincorrect. 😃

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**Author:** ![Trancephalic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trancephalic/32/380_2.png) [@Trancephalic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trancephalic)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/36 "2016-10-19T22:41:18Z")

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What I can’t wrap my mind around is how “decimate” has come to mean “complete destruction”. “Deci-” means “ten”! It’s basic Greek roots!

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/37 "2016-10-19T23:28:38Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Jibe and gibe.
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> As for the OP, I’m at a loess.

Never saw gibe, but jive is often misused for jibe.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/38 "2016-10-20T01:51:59Z")

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Cite/site/sight.

You can be cited for trespassing if you are sighted at the wrong site.

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**Author:** ![RadicalPi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/radicalpi/32/9806_2.png) [@RadicalPi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadicalPi)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/39 "2016-10-20T02:13:57Z")

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\*Who \*and _whom_. This problem is easily avoided if you remember one simple rule of thumb: If you don’t know the difference between \*who \*and _whom_, never use _whom_.

> [@Trancephalic](#):
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> What I can’t wrap my mind around is how “decimate” has come to mean “complete destruction”. “Deci-” means “ten”! It’s basic Greek roots!

“Deci-” here is Latin (although the Greek and Latin number words are clearly related).

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/loosing-vs-losing/769036/40 "2016-10-20T03:13:55Z")

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I see “paid” misspelled as “payed” so often nowadays I expect it to become an accepted variant spelling in a decade or so.

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