# Lord of the Rings: bits added in

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 29, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360 "2003-08-29T03:19:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![NoCoolUserName](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NoCoolUserName](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NoCoolUserName)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/1 "2003-08-29T03:19:34Z")

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Rules:

1. Bits are in any version of LotR: Fotr, LotR: TTT or LotR: RotK
2. Bits were not in the books
3. Bits are short

My favorite:

Frodo: “Have you been into the Gaffer’s home brew?”  
Bilbo: “No!..Well, yes, but that’s not the point.”

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**Author:** ![Delly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Delly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delly)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/2 "2003-08-29T04:13:24Z")

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The Elves at Helms Deep

I know most people dont like this but I loved it. Although it really bothers me that the Elvin leader Haldir, I think, he had no helmit, yet all the other elves had, and hes killed from a head wound!

Oh I think just broke rule number 3. Or did I?

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/3 "2003-08-29T04:40:18Z")

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As Sam and Frodo are leaving the hobbit pub and some other hobbit is flirting with Rosie.

Frodo: “Don’t worry, Sam. Rosie knows a fool when she sees one.”

Sam: (with an apprehensive look on his face) “Really?”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/4 "2003-08-29T04:57:51Z")

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“How many did you eat?”

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/5 "2003-08-29T05:12:41Z")

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“Well, yes, we’ve had ONE. But what about SECOND breakfast?”

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**Author:** ![Ms\_Macphisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@Ms\_Macphisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms_Macphisto)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/6 "2003-08-29T05:30:25Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Wang-Ka \*  
> \*\*“Well, yes, we’ve had ONE. But what about SECOND breakfast?” \*\*

And the immediate aftermath, with Aragorn throwing the apple right at Pippin’s head.

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**Author:** ![Katisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bcef8e/32.png) [@Katisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katisha)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/7 "2003-08-29T06:16:58Z")

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Since **Wang-Ka** scarfed up the one I was going to post, another good Pippinism:

Merry: “This, my friend, is a pint.”  
Pippin: “It comes in _pints?_ …I’m getting one!”

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**Author:** ![bifar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@bifar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bifar)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/8 "2003-08-29T10:07:32Z")

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Faramir: His bodyguard?  
Sam: His _gardener!_

Aragorn: \<sotto voce\> It’s the \*beards. \*

And the scene with the two Orcs having a nice chat atop the Black Gate before it opens. Hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Mapp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miss_mapp/32/369_2.png) [@Miss\_Mapp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Mapp)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/9 "2003-08-29T10:48:38Z")

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The song the hobbits sing in the Green Dragon.

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**Author:** ![Humble\_Servant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/47e85d/32.png) [@Humble\_Servant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humble_Servant)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/10 "2003-08-29T14:12:24Z")

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I liked the bit where Boromir is teaching Merry and Pippin how to use their swords, one is given a knock, Boromir says “sorry, sorry,” and they tackle him. Very visual and a good for humanizing Boromir. Without this scene, the movie Boromir could have been a cardboard bad guy.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/11 "2003-08-29T14:25:02Z")

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You know, they could have taken out all of the “added” parts, such as the “bridge scene” in FOTR, Aragorn “falling”, and the attack on Osgiliath, and found time for the SOTS at the end :mad::mad::mad:

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**Author:** ![Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Laughing\_Lagomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laughing_Lagomorph)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/12 "2003-08-29T14:28:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Humble Servant \*  
> \*\*I liked the bit where Boromir is teaching Merry and Pippin how to use their swords, one is given a knock, Boromir says “sorry, sorry,” and they tackle him. Very visual and a good for humanizing Boromir. Without this scene, the movie Boromir could have been a cardboard bad guy. \*\*

I agree on all points. This was a great little addition.

For my own: Sam, in the Chamber of Marzabul: “I think I’m getting the hang of this!”

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/13 "2003-08-29T14:39:34Z")

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The speech that Wormtongue makes to Eowyn. It is actually in the books (ROTK, and Aragorn says it to Eomer about her), but I think it works pretty well transposed.

I like the speech transpositions that I’ve caught, like Galadriel’s bit at the beginning of FOTR really being Treebeard’s speech to the Elves.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/14 "2003-08-29T16:09:24Z")

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Another transposition: They changed and transposed the Barrow-wight’s chant to Gollum, in the dead marshes where he mutters:

Cold be heart and hand and bone,  
And cold be travelers far from home  
They do not see what lies ahead  
When sun has faded and moon is dead

(Barrow Wight’s Chant)  
Cold be hand and heart and bone,  
and cold be sleep under stone:  
never more to wake on stony bed,  
never, till the Sun fails and the Moon is dead.

That first line is just too good to waste! I’m glad they worked it in somewhere.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/15 "2003-08-29T16:46:59Z")

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I was just watching this again this morning on my new TTT DVD. I adore the marching line of Easterlings who appear as Frodo, Sam, and Gollum are inspecting the Black Gate, frightening Gollum. They perfectly point up the scale of the Gate and the scene is so gorgeously framed. Then there are the giant trolls who open the gate for the soldiers! And Frodo using his brains and covering himself and Sam up with the elvish cape! It’s one of my favorite scenes of the movie, and all of the little added bits are what make it so special.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/16 "2003-08-29T17:36:08Z")

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As I mentioned in another LotR::tTT thread:

This takes place near the end of the movie in Osgiliath.

Sam: “We shouldn’t even be here!”

That line is so ironic that it makes me think PJ added it just for that reason.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/17 "2003-08-29T18:46:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Miss Mapp \*  
> \*\*The song the hobbits sing in the Green Dragon. \*\*

Bzzt. Violation of rule 2. The song is (I think) in the books, but it’s sung while the hobbits are taking baths at Fatty Bolger’s house (A Conspiracy Unmasked, IIRC). With very slightly different lyrics, to make it a drinking song instead of a bathing song.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/18 "2003-08-29T19:49:42Z")

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Arwen at the ford: “If you want him, come and claim him!”

It fit so perfectly I _thought_ it was in the book (substituting Glorfindel for Arwen, of course) but, no. There, Frodo alone is carried across the ford by Asfaloth and he watches in a daze as the baddies are swept away.

DD

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/19 "2003-08-29T19:50:10Z")

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Judges say: we’ll allow songs with changed lyrics as “not in the books.” At the very least the music was not in the books. 🙂

Thank you for playing.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-bits-added-in/198360/20 "2003-08-29T19:56:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> For my own: Sam, in the Chamber of Marzabul: “I think I’m getting the hang of this!”

The best part about that is that Sam isn’t using his sword. He’s clubbing orcs with his frying pan.

The touches that I liked were the Ring chanting during the Council of Elrond (ash naz gimbatul, ash naz gimbatul, ash naz gimbatul…) and in the FotR extended version when they’re looking for the entrance to Moria: Gimli: “Dwarven doorways fit into the rock around them so seamlessly that even their builders can’t find them, if they forget where they are.” Legolas: “Why does that not surprise me?”

Also nice were Merry and Pippen sneaking into the fireworks, and Saruman painfully branding the Orcs with the Mark of the Hand across their faces.

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