# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 107
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2121 "2010-09-02T12:54:59Z")
Sorry, was trying to post quickly and edited out a clause and forgot to put it back in. “Hopefully I’ll get an answer soon, either by Astral claiming or Natlaw explaining, as I may not be around for the end of Day, and I don’t want to unvote a VT and go back to voting Pleonast this late just in case he really is a power role, with so many questions floating around about all this.” ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2122 "2010-09-02T13:19:40Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > But **Pleonast** still gets a pass? \*\*Pleonast \*\*is not getting a pass, he’s being ignored. Nothing he says about himself can be trusted. We’re asking \*\*Natlaw \*\*to further explain his comments about ANOTHER player which might be independently verified. Those are two separate issues. Just like I won’t believe you are who you say you are until you’re dead (unless a different player confirms you independently and any possible Godfather is killed) ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2123 "2010-09-02T14:07:49Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > Hesitation means I’m wary about voting Chip. I wasn’t wary about voting him at all. \ but **hoopy** certainly you can see that one of these things is not like the other, right? i mean crap they are consecutive sentences. it’s not like i am snipping out a whole bunch of other data between these two observations. they are side by fracking side. seriously, would it be more helpful if i posted something along the lines of i think xxx is scum, but not really. but i am going to vote them anyways even though if i am wrong it wouldn’t surprise me. but then i could be right and then wouldn’t surprise me either. and i certainly expect your vote tomorrow if i survive the Night. the fact that you seem to be anticipating that i will be alive merely adds fuel to the already smoldering embers, however. and you can expect mine if you survive, as well. and “no accountability”? c’mon **hoopy** i told you why i was voting the way i was. now i can certainly understand why you personally might have an issue with it but at least i am voting my convictions. and by participation it was more along the lines of glad to have you back in a game, my friend. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2124 "2010-09-02T15:33:01Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **Natlaw** , if you have some actual hard information to that effect, you really should have shared it sooner or not at all. Posting this late leaves it likely that many folks won’t have time to unvote him, but there’s still plenty of time for Scum to pick up on that and target you. And I for one would like enough information about your implicit claim to be able to judge whether I believe it. My information is that I investigated Astral as a hobbit (I don’t know his role, but color wise his alignment would be town (as in he is not _Gollum_)). As said I think revealing his name isn’t a good idea at this time. My information is late because I expected **Astral** himself to claim. My other result is not useful to reveal now. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2125 "2010-09-02T15:36:18Z")
Why in the world are you coming out as an investigator this late in the Day for a Town role? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2126 "2010-09-02T15:37:17Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > > [@Chronos](#): > > > > **Natlaw** , if you have some actual hard information to that effect, you really should have shared it sooner or not at all. Posting this late leaves it likely that many folks won’t have time to unvote him, but there’s still plenty of time for Scum to pick up on that and target you. And I for one would like enough information about your implicit claim to be able to judge whether I believe it. > > My information is that I investigated Astral as a hobbit (I don’t know his role, but color wise his alignment would be town (as in he is not _Gollum_)). As said I think revealing his name isn’t a good idea at this time. > > My information is late because I expected **Astral** himself to claim. > > My other result is not useful to reveal now. OK **unvote Astral** **vote Special Ed** Not that Ed would be my choice of lynch, but it’s the only other choice and we now have someone vouching for Astral. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2127 "2010-09-02T15:42:02Z")
> [@](#): > > My other result is not useful to reveal now. Keep in mind, the Doctor’s dead, so it’s very likely the Scum will kill you toNight. Any information you have, it’s probably now or never. If you can confirm anyone else as Town, later might be better than now, but now is definitely better than never. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2128 "2010-09-02T15:43:19Z")
@ **Natlaw** , if there’s a godfather in this game, do you know how that would affect your investigation results? ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2129 "2010-09-02T15:51:43Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Why in the world are you coming out as an investigator this late in the Day for a Town role? Because I’ve know **Astral** is a town hobbit and my investigation would be wasted if he is lynched. My other result doesn’t help confirm someone as town - it might be possible to counter claim with it. From a Godfather I would know he wasn’t a hobbit. _Gollum_ wouldn’t look like a hobbit either even though he technically is one. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2130 "2010-09-02T15:59:02Z")
\*\*Vote Count: Specialed(6): Chronos, Doctorwho, Natlaw, Guiri, Mhaye, Oneandonly Astralrejection(5): Redskeezix, Specialed, Drainbead, Hoopy, Innerstickler Pleonast(2): Meeko, Snickers Snickers (2): Nanook, USCDiver Hoopy(1): Peeker Peeker(1): Pleonast Drainbead(1): Astralrejection \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2131 "2010-09-02T16:00:45Z")
Just a moment, folks. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2132 "2010-09-02T16:07:07Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > > [@USCDiver](#): > > > > Why in the world are you coming out as an investigator this late in the Day for a Town role? > > Because I’ve know **Astral** is a town hobbit and my investigation would be wasted if he is lynched. > > My other result doesn’t help confirm someone as town - it might be possible to counter claim with it. > > From a Godfather I would know he wasn’t a hobbit. _Gollum_ wouldn’t look like a hobbit either even though he technically is one. crap, **ed** is not going to get his security deposit back. now there are three holes in the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2133 "2010-09-02T16:09:49Z")
\*\*Astral began to back away as the swords rose above his head. “No!!! No!!! It’s not me!! No!!!” he cried. “No, it isn’t actually,” said someone, “It’s Ed. It has to be.” Ed said nothing and bowed his head. “There is no evil here, except for the servants of the Dark Tower. I am clearly not a servant of evil….you must see this,” he pleaded. They did not see it. He whispered, “I had so hoped to see the White Tree in flower again.” Now, he never would. **SpecialEd is now dead. He was Faramir, a member of the Alliance of Light. He had no special powers.** It is now Night Three. Day Four begins Saturday at Noon Eastern. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2134 "2010-09-02T16:12:30Z")
Well, cold comfort I’m sure, but my apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2135 "2010-09-02T16:13:15Z")
Crap. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2136 "2010-09-02T16:13:35Z")
eh, fuck. i thought i was supposed to be the one that died. goodbye little brother. the world will be a much quieter place with your passing. and if i could make just one suggestion: can we get back to lynching scum instead of townies? jeepers peepers. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2137 "2010-09-02T16:19:06Z")
Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2138 "2010-09-02T16:20:05Z")
i don’t consider this strategy at all. but i think **wanderers** and i (assuming i survive the night) may very well have an in depth discussion manana. maybe we can make it a three way and involve the **waffle man**. that would be fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2139 "2010-09-02T16:46:04Z")
**mod question: if we have an investigator type role in this game would that person releasing the results of their investigations, if in fact that person had any that were successful, be considered strategy?** cause it doesn’t sound like strategy to me. merely a recitation of facts. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2140 "2010-09-03T01:46:29Z")
Wow, I did not expect to survive the day. I was at work and didn’t even bother checking in, figuring I’d see the fancy color Mahaloth wrote up for me later. I can’t say anything else, because there’s no strategy at night, but there’s lots to talk about come Day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=106) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=108)