# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2661 "2010-09-16T21:00:06Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > it’s Night so i will fluff. > > does anyone at all have experience with this particular product? > > [http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/squeez-bacon.html?cpg=cj&ref&CJURL](http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/squeez-bacon.html?cpg=cj&ref&CJURL) The fact that that I didn’t know this existed, or that it has not gone viral leaves my satisfaction the no. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2662 "2010-09-16T21:02:04Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > I hope that wasn’t Sauron violating a hobbit… \*\*Where did Drain’s strap on get to ? \*\* ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2663 "2010-09-16T21:07:29Z")
[quote=“MHaye, post:2659, topic:549867”] > [@Alka\_Seltzer](#): > > Here are a couple more challenging ones: > > [Top 50 Characters](http://www.sporcle.com/games/dolebanana/alllotr) (think it includes the appendices). And The Hobbit. I scored 35 because I missed a hyphen. I missed 40, mostly the ones who were already dead. I was surprised to find Bill there. It definitely didn’t include The Hobbit though, too many characters from there weren’t mentioned. Like most of the dwarves, Bard, Smaug, Beorn, and Thrandil ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2664 "2010-09-18T15:04:27Z")
It was still quite dark, but the Alliance of Light could not continue sleeping. A thick, foul, smell had gradually filled the air around them during the Night. This, with the feeling in the air, was very unsettling. “Is this some new devilry?” asked one Member of the Alliance of Light. Someone replied, “That, or something struck against devilry itself. That scream came from no man.” Just outside their camp, a mangled mess was found……clearly the source of the smell and the feeling around them. It was a……body….of sorts. It was mangled, wrapped into a tight ball….and glowing white. It did not look burned. “Ah, this is all that remains of Mairon….the ‘Admirable.’ Nothing but a pale, empty shell. This news is beyond good for all of us.” “Then……the Ring…the One Ring……has been destroyed?” inquired another Alliance of Light member. “Indeed……but that scream could not have come from Sauron…it just couldn’t have.” replied the other. Drainbead is now dead. **Drainbead was Sauron, a Servant of Darkness. Sauron was the leader of the Servants of Darkness and could fool any investigations against him. Additionally, Sauron could not be fully killed before the One Ring was destroyed.** \* It is still Night. Day Six begins at Noon. \*If lynched before the Ring’s destruction, Sauron could still be active at Night, though would not “count” for the Servant of Darkness win condition and could not post in the Day. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2665 "2010-09-18T15:08:44Z")
Wow. Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2666 "2010-09-18T15:13:04Z")
i guess the strap on back fired. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2667 "2010-09-18T15:14:14Z")
this ought to be a fun as all heck kind of Day. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2668 "2010-09-18T15:15:43Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > i guess the strap on back fired. Ouch! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2669 "2010-09-18T15:59:58Z")
In the early morning, hope had again filled the camp of the Alliance of Light. With Sauron dead, it appeared that evil had been destroyed. “Is it over?” was spoken quietly and excitedly by many. “Perhaps….but I sense not,” replied some of the wiser. “If none of us have died, then perhaps we are at last free.” But again, someone was missing….and again, a body was found. It was laid flat on the ground. Nanook has died. **Nanook was Gandalf, a member of the Alliance of Light. He could cast a spell that would tell him the true allegiance of another player in the game.** “But……Gandalf would not have screamed like that….It could not have been him,” said one person. Others agreed and muttered, “No……but then….what was that scream? Who was that?” Still sensing an absence in their presence, the Alliance of Light continued to search for source of the scream. Eventually, some miles from their camp, they found it. It was a lean, nearly emaciated body. It was not human nor elf; it looked closer to hobbit form, but was darker, longer, and twisted. The body had its own thin, frail hand wrapped tightly around its throat. The head had been bashed in and a bloody rock lay in the other hand. “What is it?” “It’s cucuy……and he seems to have killed himself.” **Cucuy is dead. He was Gollum, who was only aligned to himself. He was a seeker of the Ring and if he had gotten it, would have tried to kill everyone but himself.** \* \*\*Cucuy has been mod-killed for not taking a required Night Action(and apparently refusing to play the last Day). \*\* It is now Day Six. I’m going to determine the end of Day Six in a bit. Assume Thursday for now, but I may shorten it. \*Gollum was a SK of sorts. Before having the Ring, he attempted to steal it Nightly. He would have had a couple kinds of kills per Night if he found the Ring(hidden and unhidden). With the Ring being destroyed, he could have killed out or rage per Night, but only would have succeeded every other Night. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2670 "2010-09-18T16:05:48Z")
fucked up role for a newb. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2671 "2010-09-18T16:08:02Z")
neta: and that is not to gritch at the mod just saying that is a tough damn role for someone who really knows what they are doing. for a newb (and i assume **cucuy** to be such since i have never encountered her/him) that would be a tough damn kitten to have to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2672 "2010-09-18T16:09:18Z")
so **nookie** moves his vote off me to scum. who saved **astral** in the first place. anyone want to chime in? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2673 "2010-09-18T16:17:10Z")
**mod question: by saying that gandalf could discover the true allegiance of any player in the game are you suggesting that an invest of drain/sauron would have come back scum?** ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2674 "2010-09-18T16:23:35Z")
I hope **Nanook** won’t mind me saying that that was a very nice Night indeed. The Godfather and the SK (of sorts) both dead overNight? Thank you very much. With the Ring destroyed, I would like to recommend that this might finally be the time for Frodo to declare. You obviously know your role better than I do, and if you don’t think this is the right time, then obviously don’t say anything, but at least think about it: We’re pretty well sure to have a Frodo in the game, so if you’re not counterclaimed, it would give us another effectively-confirmed Townie. With four Scum and an SK dead but the game still going on, I think it’s safe to say that the Scum team had exactly five members. A six-member Scum team plus SK, out of 23 players, would pretty much mean that **Mahaloth** hates us. The last remaining Scum must be the role-blocker (since **Nanook** reported being blocked), but that’s probably irrelevant now, since Scum power roles usually can’t use their power if they’re the one making the kill (and besides, whom would e block?). And before I forget: **Vote peeker** Especially after yesterDay’s lynch, he seems to have been making a deliberate effort to avoid voting for Scum. Out of the four Scum we’ve found so far, and out of eleven votes he’s cast, the only ones for Scum were a vote for **Suburban Plankton** on Day 1, which he doesn’t get credit for since he withdrew it before the end of the Day, and one for **Natlaw** on the Day we lynched him, which he doesn’t get credit for since _everyone_ voted for **Natlaw** on that Day. Plus we have all of his absurd noise-making: He’s absolutely convinced that **Wanderers** , me, and some other player (I can’t remember whom offhand) are all Scum, even though there’s just not room on the Scum team; he was absolutely convinced (at least as of yesterDay, after we know that he had been brought into the fold) that **Astral** was _not_ Scum; he refused to give intelligible reasons for any of his votes or suspicions for the past Day or two; he insisted that he and **ed** must be some sort of crypto-masons and that therefore we could be sure that **ed** was Town, but then refuses to apply the identical reasoning for anyone else, even voting for someone who, by that reasoning, would be confirmed; the list goes on and on. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2675 "2010-09-18T16:25:34Z")
> [@](#): > > so nookie moves his vote off me to scum. The significance of this being? > [@](#): > > who saved astral in the first place. anyone want to chime in? That would be **Natlaw**. Who is now comfortably dead, and no further worry to us. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2676 "2010-09-18T16:37:00Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > **mod question: by saying that gandalf could discover the true allegiance of any player in the game are you suggesting that an invest of drain/sauron would have come back scum?** No, Sauron did/would come back aligned to the Alliance of Light. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2677 "2010-09-18T16:38:57Z")
Alive 1. Meeko 2. OneandOnly 3. Chronos 4. Guiri 5. Snickers 6. Inner Stickler 7. Doctor who 8. MHaye 9 HoopyFrood 9. Peeker 10. USCDiver Dead: **Suburban Plankston – Denethor (Servant of Darkness – No special power)** **Telcontar – Legolas (Alliance of Light – Protector) Chipacabra – Treebeard (Alliance of Light – No special power) Gadarene – Aragorn (Alliance of Light – Special Objects) Specialed – Faramir (Alliance of Light – no special powers) Pleonast – Galadriel (Alliance of Light – Role-blocker with telepathy)** **Natlaw – Saruman (Servant of Darkness – Watcher with Palantir)** **Redskeezix – Eomer (Alliance of Light – no special power)** **AstralRejection – Shelob (Servant of Darkness – Secret servant) Drain Bead – Sauron (Servant of Darkness – leader and Ring needer)** **Nanook – Gandalf (Alliance of Light – Allegiance investigator)** **Cucuy – Gollum (No allegiance – Serial Killer and Ring needer)** ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2678 "2010-09-18T16:40:22Z")
\*\*Day Six ends Tuesday at Noon Eastern. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2679 "2010-09-18T16:53:54Z")
Oh, by the way, some new computations: First, our probability of winning. Taking into account the events of last Night, and assuming no further power roles or confirmations, our chance of winning is now exactly 2 in 3, or 67%. If we can get one more confirmed Town (such as, for instance, by Frodo claiming), that goes up to 5 in 7, or 71%. If we can get two more confirmed Town, it goes up to 5 in 6, or 82%. Second, the vote analysis: My program now thinks that the last Scum could be any of **Wanderers** , **Snickers** , **MHaye** , **Hoopy Frood** , **peeker** , or **USCDiver** , but does not think that it could be **Inner Stickler** or **Doctor Who**. I haven’t yet put in yesterDay’s vote record, but **Stickler** and **Who** both voted for **Astral** , so they should still be clear. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2680 "2010-09-18T16:57:51Z")
OK. If we think we are hunting just one scum remaining, is it not full claim for all time? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=133) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=135)