# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2741 "2010-09-20T01:07:39Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, fair enough. And for what it’s worth, I also suspect that the last minion is the Witch-King. wonderful. so you vote for boromir. _blink_ ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2742 "2010-09-20T01:13:07Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@Chronos](#): > > > > OK, fair enough. And for what it’s worth, I also suspect that the last minion is the Witch-King. > > wonderful. so you vote for boromir. > > _blink_ Why don’t you post your role PM, peeker? Then we can all evaluate it and decide what we think about your quasi-mason claim. Because, as one of the players who hasn’t yet voted, your posts are seeming desperate to me. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2743 "2010-09-20T01:22:32Z")
and i just want to add another thought. this has been much more enjoyable that watching that last freakin hp game. jeebs that one dragged. no offense intended **maha**. i have always looked at **chronos** as one of those scary suckers who post little and then kind of comes in with all guns blazing like **nook** , **bill** or **mhaye**. the fact that we have been able to engage in a little riposte has been, frankly, enlightening, as well as entertaining. and i was glad to see **hoop** come out of retirement, so to speak. i know that nothing that i am permitted to say will convince you folks that i am town. sure i have talked a bunch but that is what i do. i hunt scum in my own way. is it the way that most other folks would do? probably not. however, this game has turned around in the last cycle. and i am now confident that town can seal the deal regardless of what happens to me. remember scum, i play this sucker for a win not for personal survival. shoot, guess that’s why i win about 70 percent of the time. trust unca peek and you’ve beaten the house odds. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2744 "2010-09-20T01:24:09Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > wonderful. so you vote for boromir. > > > > _blink_ > > Why don’t you post your role PM, peeker? Then we can all evaluate it and decide what we think about your quasi-mason claim. Because, as one of the players who hasn’t yet voted, your posts are seeming desperate to me. i already did, fcs. and i redacted the portions that i was required to in order to avoid mod kill. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2745 "2010-09-20T01:36:50Z")
neta: i think i have a vote on **chronos** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2746 "2010-09-20T01:41:05Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > neta: i think i have a vote on **chronos** That’s ok **Peeker** , we’ll give you 5 minutes, we know you will change your mind, again. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2747 "2010-09-20T01:45:51Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > and since i am pretty sure that i will swing toDay in the interest of getting town as much information as possible to seal this deal. > > here is my pm. > > Mahaloth > Charter Member Join Date: Apr 2000 > Location: 地球 > Posts: 11,081 > > Small Mistake > > * * * > > Peeker, > > _redacted_ > > _redacted_ > > Ahem: > > You are Boromir, not _redacted_. > > _redacted_ > > You are Boromir. > > You are a member of the Alliance of Light. > > You are truly frightened about a future controlled by Sauron. You are sure that Sauron and his minions would destroy all good in Middle-earth and this includes your family and loved ones. You will not stop until Sauron and his minions are destroyed. > > Powers: > > You have no other powers beyond daily voting for lynching. > > You win when all threats to the Alliance of Light have been destroyed. Right. Here’s your PM post. I don’t see anything in there that would indicate you know that USCDiver is town or you are a quasi-Mason. Maybe it’s in the redacted part, but it would seem odd that Mahaloth would tell you not to reveal that on threat of mod-kill. It seems like you are twisting and turning and tossing out everything you can think of in an attempt not to die. Honestly, I would consider not voting for you if you could clarify this for me. But I don’t think you can other than vague statements about secret information. Sorry. \*\*Vote Peeker. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2748 "2010-09-20T03:06:41Z")
> [@Doctor\_Who](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > and since i am pretty sure that i will swing toDay in the interest of getting town as much information as possible to seal this deal. > > > > here is my pm. > > > > Mahaloth > > Charter Member Join Date: Apr 2000 > > Location: 地球 > > Posts: 11,081 > > > > Small Mistake > > > > * * * > > > > Peeker, > > > > _redacted_ > > > > _redacted_ > > > > Ahem: > > > > You are Boromir, not _redacted_. > > > > _redacted_ > > > > You are Boromir. > > > > You are a member of the Alliance of Light. > > > > You are truly frightened about a future controlled by Sauron. You are sure that Sauron and his minions would destroy all good in Middle-earth and this includes your family and loved ones. You will not stop until Sauron and his minions are destroyed. > > > > Powers: > > > > You have no other powers beyond daily voting for lynching. > > > > You win when all threats to the Alliance of Light have been destroyed. > > Right. Here’s your PM post. I don’t see anything in there that would indicate you know that USCDiver is town or you are a quasi-Mason. Maybe it’s in the redacted part, but it would seem odd that Mahaloth would tell you not to reveal that on threat of mod-kill. It seems like you are twisting and turning and tossing out everything you can think of in an attempt not to die. Honestly, I would consider not voting for you if you could clarify this for me. But I don’t think you can other than vague statements about secret information. Sorry. > > \*\*Vote Peeker. \*\* and that is fine. i will not step over the line, although i think to a great extent i may have already have. but at least when i flip you will know the truth i speak. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2749 "2010-09-20T04:42:06Z")
No, on the off chance that you flip Town, we’ll all just assume that you went on an unusually strong multi-week drunken bender. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2750 "2010-09-20T13:42:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > No, on the off chance that you flip Town, we’ll all just assume that you went on an unusually strong multi-week drunken bender. actually a mulit week bender of unemployment between jobs. the next one doesn’t start until october so i will have to find something to do for the next two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2751 "2010-09-20T13:59:19Z")
Whoa. I picked the wrong weekend to be really busy. I’m just posting now quick to let everyone know I’m still here. I need to do some analysis before I do any voting - that’ll come later today. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2752 "2010-09-20T16:36:05Z")
and i know this doesn’t really make a hill of beans regarding my fate and maybe it is all water under the bridge. but when **nat** claimed and then followed up the following Day with more information. why would he have included **nookie** in the list of folks that she had “investigated”. she would have know that her screwy claim and also target list would basically force **nook** to counter claim. so if he had really investigated **nook** and knew what he was isn’t that self immolation. i mean scum **nat** could have picked anyone out as town, but why **nook** if he had really looked at him? puzzling. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2753 "2010-09-20T16:51:04Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > and i know this doesn’t really make a hill of beans regarding my fate and maybe it is all water under the bridge. > > but when **nat** claimed and then followed up the following Day with more information. why would he have included **nookie** in the list of folks that she had “investigated”. she would have know that her screwy claim and also target list would basically force **nook** to counter claim. so if he had really investigated **nook** and knew what he was isn’t that self immolation. i mean scum **nat** could have picked anyone out as town, but why **nook** if he had really looked at him? > > puzzling. I think when you have a player claim an investigative role, provide a list of results, and then get lynched and come up scum… Well you are looking at a whole heap of WIFOM if you start sifting through that list. Was he trying to gain support by identifying real townies? Was he covering his scum buddies? Etc, etc, and so on. The only important thing is that Nat scrambled to save Astral and, in doing so, revealed himself and Astral to be scum. Good for us. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2754 "2010-09-20T16:55:44Z")
How are we supposed to know who \*\*Nat \*\*looked at or what he found? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2755 "2010-09-20T16:58:06Z")
At most, all **Natlaw** could have learned from **Nanook** is that he targeted someone with some ability. That does not necessarily imply Detective. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2756 "2010-09-20T17:09:38Z")
well apparantly **nook** believed him. and i understand that, but as a scum watcher/tracker (or whatever) and with a dead doc it doesn’t take a lick of genius to deduce that person is either an rb or a detec or some other town power role. and as scum if i had that information i sure as hell wouldn’t be sharing it in the main thread risking a counter claim. best to let it lie and take them out the following Night and wifom someone else, fcs. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2757 "2010-09-20T18:25:40Z")
**Vote peeker.** I just can’t get past his insistence that **Chronos** is scum. It’s been repeatedly pointed out that it’s extremely unlikely and not at all similar to **Natlaw** ’s attempt to save **Astral**. And his continued insistence that he’s some sort of half-mason, based soley on his own imaginings and not corroborated by any shred of evidence (which is also totally unlike the other mason claims we’ve seen). Plus his attempt to save **Astral** yesterday looks more and more like scum trying to save scum. (We’ll not even mention his continued attempts to rehabilitate **Natlaw**. Seriously, I really don’t understand this.) And general smudging of pretty much anyone and everyone in the game - **MHaye** , **Hoopy** , **Nanook** , have I missed anyone? Add in the hounding of **OaOW** for actions that are understandable (if unfortunate), along with poorly reasoned voting (IMO) and general incoherence. It’s all just anti-town. ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2758 "2010-09-20T18:32:32Z")
Also, in order to give town as much information as possible, I’m Arwen, a vanilla townie. Here’s my PM: > [@Mahaloth](#): > > You are Arwen. > > You are a member of the Alliance of Light. > > You are truly frightened about a future controlled by Sauron. You are sure that Sauron and his minions would destroy all good in Middle-earth and this includes your family and loved ones. You will not stop until Sauron and his minions are destroyed. > > Powers: > > You have no other powers beyond daily voting for lynching. > > You win when all threats to the Alliance of Light have been destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2759 "2010-09-20T19:01:31Z")
anyone want to give us a vote count and the order the votes came in? i sure as hell am not going to be arsed to do it. just not feeling the love. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2760 "2010-09-20T19:03:09Z")
never mind i found what i was looking for. yep, **chronos** kicked off the wagon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=139)