# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 140
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2781 "2010-09-21T01:38:38Z")
Well, it’s like this, **peeker**. You obviously know whether you’re Town or not. If you are, then you’re taking no risk, and I’d be a fool to accept a sucker bet. If you’re not, then you’re effectively asserting your innocence by waving a bunch of money, and are willing to lose that money for the sake of gaining an advantage in the game. You are facing no risk, regardless: You’re either certain that you won’t lose the money, or you’re certain that you will, but don’t care. Either way, it’s not an honest bet. And be advised that I will not be online tomorrow morning until after the deadline, so if you do post anything of substance then, I won’t be able to respond to it in any way. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2782 "2010-09-21T01:44:25Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > i mean seriously what more do you folks want? Tell us what your PM says and we’ll decide for ourselves. You’re going to swing either way. If you get modkilled and we agree with your conclusions then we can lynch \*\*Chronos \*\*Today ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2783 "2010-09-21T02:05:26Z")
Uhh…peeker, there’s a slight difference between your bet with Bill and the bet you’re trying to pull off here. You actually know your alignment. Neither you nor Bill knew for certain that Total Lost was the Master in Malazan, though Bill had plenty of supporting evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2784 "2010-09-21T02:10:45Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > maha: kill me or i am posting the whole fucking thing. no shit dude. i’ll wait until around 8 in the morning but if i am not dead then i am going to assume it was a game mechanic. in which case i am going all out. fuck this. Wow. I guess he got buried in a trunk load of potatoes. I’m not gonna ask where the last potato is hidden. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2785 "2010-09-21T02:44:07Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Well, it’s like this, **peeker**. You obviously know whether you’re Town or not. If you are, then you’re taking no risk, and I’d be a fool to accept a sucker bet. If you’re not, then you’re effectively asserting your innocence by waving a bunch of money, and are willing to lose that money for the sake of gaining an advantage in the game. You are facing no risk, regardless: You’re either certain that you won’t lose the money, or you’re certain that you will, but don’t care. Either way, it’s not an honest bet. > > And be advised that I will not be online tomorrow morning until after the deadline, so if you do post anything of substance then, I won’t be able to respond to it in any way. hey, look it’s all for a good cause. i am not betting you against me. i am betting a charity against another charity. that’s a freaking no lose proposition in my book. if you are so sure let’s see it. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uI7ni7zL8qU/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGHIgVig3MA8=&rs=AOn4CLCX3EF_69aE3xe4jlojG-qeD4VIjw "Clucking Chicken") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7ni7zL8qU) ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2786 "2010-09-21T02:50:32Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > Uhh…peeker, there’s a slight difference between your bet with Bill and the bet you’re trying to pull off here. > > You actually know your alignment. > > Neither you nor Bill knew for certain that Total Lost was the Master in Malazan, though Bill had plenty of supporting evidence. absolutely i know that i am town. and that is why i am giving such big odds. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2787 "2010-09-21T03:01:48Z")
and i have been reminded my betters that this is really not necessary. i apologize to anyone that i have offended, especially **chronos**. certainly that was not the intent. i play this game very hard. and perhaps this board is not suited for me. i really have enjoyed this game with you folks. i am a niller townie, boromir, that had some extra data. i only hope that some of the information that i have given you will lead to a town victory. flip side suckers. ciao. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2788 "2010-09-21T04:53:54Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > . > > I’d like to see participation, possibly a claim, and some thoughts and comments on recent events. Is that asking too much? You’re so needy! 😃 my role pm [QUOTE=Mahaloth] You are Gimli. You are a member of the Alliance of Light. You are truly frightened about a future controlled by Sauron. You are sure that Sauron and his minions would destroy all good in Middle-earth and this includes your family and loved ones. You will not stop until Sauron and his minions are destroyed. Powers: You have no other powers beyond daily voting for lynching. You win when all threats to the Alliance of Light have been destroyed. [/quote] Exciting, no? **Vote peekercpa** If he’s scum, hurray. I can go back to being sick. If he’s not, _shrug_ it’ll take a month to get to lylo anyway. And he’s certainly posted enough anti-town crap to warrant a lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2789 "2010-09-21T05:45:18Z")
Interesting (if true) that Legolas would be a power role, but Gimli vanilla. But we can think more in-depth about that toMorrow, if we have a toMorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2790 "2010-09-21T12:17:56Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Day Six ends Tuesday at Noon Eastern. For some reason, I was thinking 8 am. Oh well, when I get back today, this will be a fun present to open. I hope. Has there ever been a Wincon tied to a Godfather living or not? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2791 "2010-09-21T12:24:51Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > For some reason, I was thinking 8 am. It’s 11 AM(Eastern), actually. My bad for the original time error. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2792 "2010-09-21T12:42:13Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > \*\*maha: kill me or i am posting the whole fucking thing. no shit dude. i’ll wait until around 8 in the morning but if i am not dead then i am going to assume it was a game mechanic. in which case i am going all out. fuck this \*\*. Did I miss **Peeker** going “all out”? Drat! (Or maybe he meant 8 AM Central and we have 20 minutes to wait) ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2793 "2010-09-21T12:51:11Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > \*\*maha: kill me or i am posting the whole fucking thing. no shit dude. i’ll wait until around 8 in the morning but if i am not dead then i am going to assume it was a game mechanic. in which case i am going all out. fuck this \*\*. > > Did I miss **Peeker** going “all out”? Drat! > > (Or maybe he meant 8 AM Central and we have 20 minutes to wait) I hope peek doesn’t intend to do his baby elephant impression. That’s one kind of all out I can live without… ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2794 "2010-09-21T13:00:47Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@Meeko](#): > > > > For some reason, I was thinking 8 am. > > It’s 11 AM(Eastern), actually. My bad for the original time error. Perhaps Peeker’s got in the way here. \*\*But I take it you aren’t going to touch that with a 39 and half foot pole. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2795 "2010-09-21T13:43:52Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > \*\*maha: kill me or i am posting the whole fucking thing. no shit dude. i’ll wait until around 8 in the morning but if i am not dead then i am going to assume it was a game mechanic. in which case i am going all out. fuck this \*\*. > > Did I miss **Peeker** going “all out”? Drat! > > (Or maybe he meant 8 AM Central and we have 20 minutes to wait) nah, as i noted above i have recieved a pm that has basically said don’t do it. sucks for me but i won’t break the game just to save my own ass. as i have said before i play this for a team win not for individual survival (although getting past Day 1 on this board was a pleasant surprise). and i have reason to believe based on recent pms that the information i have was not a game mechanic. so string me up and be done with it. although if you want histrionics and self voting i can always provide that entertainment as well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2796 "2010-09-21T14:51:07Z")
**Guiri** , I think you’re right about the **Natlaw** / **Astral** /\*\*Drain \*\*mechanics. Looking back on the voting, \*\*Astral \*\*and \*\*Drain \*\*got into it on Day 3, the day of **Natlaw** ’s save. To me, this means that \*\*Natlaw \*\*had found out about Shelob the night before (N2), but couldn’t discuss it until Night 3. Hence his last minute save, so they could recruit **Astral**. **Chronos** , you mentioned that you inherited **Gadarene** ’s toys, and that you took subobtimal actions on the first two Nights you had them because you didn’t know how to use them. Could you tell us what the objects you tried to use were? **peeker** , you say “it wasn’t until usc posted his pm that I figured it out.” But you still haven’t told us how you’re so certain that \*\*USCDiver \*\*is town. Other than your “Mod said I can’t” response, is there anything you can reveal about your thought process here? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2797 "2010-09-21T15:00:02Z")
sorry **snickers** can’t help you out. especially since i am swinging. now if it was close and a one vote might change things i might consider it but nah, not in this circumstance. GO TOWN if you don’t close it out tomorrow i will be perfectly pissed. sometimes in games folks are given or receive information that others will not possess. that is part of this game. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2798 "2010-09-21T15:01:05Z")
look back to **ed** would be my hint. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2799 "2010-09-21T15:09:37Z")
c’mon **maha** you should have this pre-written a while ago. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2800 "2010-09-21T15:09:50Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > sometimes in games folks are given or receive information that others will not possess. that is part of this game. Yes, and sharing that information overtly or covertly is also part of that game. You haven’t done enough to help us use your extra information, so it becomes useless. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=139) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=141)