# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 141
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2801 "2010-09-21T15:12:20Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > sometimes in games folks are given or receive information that others will not possess. that is part of this game. > > Yes, and sharing that information overtly or covertly is also part of that game. You haven’t done enough to help us use your extra information, so it becomes useless. i’ve told you the conclusions that i arrived at based on the information. i mean if you need something tangible to hold and touch i am unable to provide that. but i made a conclusion about certain folks in this game based on the information that i have. is that not what you are doing. and if so, what makes your conclusion any better than mine? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2802 "2010-09-21T15:14:19Z")
and just in case you missed it the first time around. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20w-nuLcneU) ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2803 "2010-09-21T15:15:22Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@USCDiver](#): > > > > Yes, and sharing that information overtly or covertly is also part of that game. You haven’t done enough to help us use your extra information, so it becomes useless. > > i’ve told you the conclusions that i arrived at based on the information. i mean if you need something tangible to hold and touch i am unable to provide that. but i made a conclusion about certain folks in this game based on the information that i have. > > is that not what you are doing. and if so, what makes your conclusion any better than mine? In my particular case I knoiw you concluded wrong, in that I know I am town. This doesn’t mean that your data points are useless though, just your conclusion. But you won’t share the data points. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2804 "2010-09-21T15:21:53Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > i’ve told you the conclusions that i arrived at based on the information. i mean if you need something tangible to hold and touch i am unable to provide that. but i made a conclusion about certain folks in this game based on the information that i have. > > > > is that not what you are doing. and if so, what makes your conclusion any better than mine? > > In my particular case I knoiw you concluded wrong, in that I know I am town. This doesn’t mean that your data points are useless though, just your conclusion. But you won’t share the data points. what data points would those be? i know what i know and i have seen what i have seen. the fact that i choose to interpret them in a meaningful manner, for me, that may be different than your conclusion does not make me scum. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2805 "2010-09-21T15:24:42Z")
and one other point **wanderer** just so we are clear. i initially thought **ed** ’s handshake was totally scum motivated. as i began to get additional information i came to see while it did have scum undertones it was just a half arsed town play. i thought your vote switch to **astral** was a scummy play. but after the flips i don’t thinks so as much. do not your opinions of other folks evolve as the game progresses? i mean i don’t come into a game as town saying blah blah blah blah are scum and then have my opinion evolve. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2806 "2010-09-21T15:26:54Z")
neta: the last sentence doesn’t parse correctly. what i was trying to say is that i don’t come into a game with a preconceived notion about what is and not re-evalutate it based on information that one might receive or that one gleans from the interactions and comments in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2807 "2010-09-21T15:27:14Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@USCDiver](#): > > > > Yes, and sharing that information overtly or covertly is also part of that game. You haven’t done enough to help us use your extra information, so it becomes useless. > > i’ve told you the conclusions that i arrived at based on the information. i mean if you need something tangible to hold and touch i am unable to provide that. but i made a conclusion about certain folks in this game based on the information that i have. > > is that not what you are doing. and if so, what makes your conclusion any better than mine? I didn’t saying anything about your conclusions, I am asking about your information. You expect me to blindly trust that your conclusions are genuine when you won’t share the information that led you to them? Fat chance of that. If you can’t share your information then you need to find other evidence to support your conclusions that the rest of us can see. Otherwise your conclusions are meaningless. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2808 "2010-09-21T15:30:25Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > > > In my particular case I knoiw you concluded wrong, in that I know I am town. This doesn’t mean that your data points are useless though, just your conclusion. But you won’t share the data points. > > what data points would those be? > > i know what i know and i have seen what i have seen. the fact that i choose to interpret them in a meaningful manner, for me, that may be different than your conclusion does not make me scum. The hard facts your are claiming to possess but which you can’t share. Whats the worst that can happen? You get modkilled just before you get lynched? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2809 "2010-09-21T15:35:06Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > what data points would those be? > > > > i know what i know and i have seen what i have seen. the fact that i choose to interpret them in a meaningful manner, for me, that may be different than your conclusion does not make me scum. > > The hard facts your are claiming to possess but which you can’t share. Whats the worst that can happen? You get modkilled just before you get lynched? there are other dynamics involved. i have been directly requested by the mod to not do anything more than i have done. i respect his game and will honor that request even though it means my death. team first, individual last. lather, rinse, repeat. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2810 "2010-09-21T15:40:39Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > > > The hard facts your are claiming to possess but which you can’t share. Whats the worst that can happen? You get modkilled just before you get lynched? > > there are other dynamics involved. i have been directly requested by the mod to not do anything more than i have done. i respect his game and will honor that request even though it means my death. team first, individual last. lather, rinse, repeat. The very definition of a magic bag. You do realise we only have your word for any of this? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2811 "2010-09-21T15:58:49Z")
what else do you have from anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2812 "2010-09-21T15:59:39Z")
“This was the moment of our triumph. So many suffered for such a small thing, and now that it is gone, you fools let your minds be warped by the remnants of evil.” This was Peeker speaking. His voice was strong, eloquent, clear, and calm. He did not speak as if he valued his life above other, but only as if he valued good over evil. No one would listen to his reasoning. No one would listen to the last remaining voice of his once well respected and favored family. Peeker did not put up a fight. He only asked to be buried with his shield and sword. And that he be buried next to his brother. **Peeker was Boromir. He was a member of the Alliance of Light and had no special powers.** It is now Night. This night will be 23 HOURS long. Day 7 begins tomorrow at 11:00 AM. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2813 "2010-09-21T15:59:55Z")
and i thought this Day was over. my legs are getting tired from standing on the scaffolding. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2814 "2010-09-21T16:01:34Z")
well that was an interesting cross post. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2815 "2010-09-21T16:10:47Z")
Wasn’t the first time I’ve been wrong, and won’t be the last. Oh, well, sorry, **peeker**. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2816 "2010-09-21T16:36:24Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > And that he be buried next to his brother. \ [ghostly presence] and i know he is my brother but i have a hard time accepting that for all eternity i am going to be sleeping next to **ed**. [/ghostly presence] ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2817 "2010-09-21T17:23:20Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@Mahaloth](#): > > > > And that he be buried next to his brother. > > \ > > [ghostly presence] > and i know he is my brother but i have a hard time accepting that for all eternity i am going to be sleeping next to **ed**. > [/ghostly presence] Hahahahahahaha… That’s awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2818 "2010-09-21T17:57:45Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@Mahaloth](#): > > > > And that he be buried next to his brother. > > \ > > [ghostly presence] > and i know he is my brother but i have a hard time accepting that for all eternity i am going to be sleeping next to **ed**. > [/ghostly presence] I just wonder who is on Ed’s other side. … **Dibs!** :eek: :eek: That is, of course, If I don’t make it. ---
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2819 "2010-09-21T18:58:31Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Peeker did not put up a fight. He only asked to be buried with his shield and sword. > > And that he be buried next to his brother. Unfortunately, there’s a bloody war on you know, and us gravediggers are a little busy. They’ll have to share. Nice boots by the way. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/2820 "2010-09-21T20:14:27Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > And that he be buried next to his brother. That’s odd, I thought I was cremated. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=140) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=142)