# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/321 "2010-08-13T13:32:32Z")
My grandmother is very sick. I don’t know when I’ll be back. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/322 "2010-08-13T13:33:59Z")
I need to check posts of all other handshakers, but special ed gets a ++ because he posted it before on eof the sentences involved was made general knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/323 "2010-08-13T13:51:55Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > My grandmother is very sick. I don’t know when I’ll be back. travel safely. thoughts and prayers go with you. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/324 "2010-08-13T13:52:08Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Is there an easy way to use the search function on this board to see only their contributions to this thread, or was that the result of simply reviewing the whole game up to that point? Besides the search function you can go back to the forum page and click on the post count for the thread which will bring up the number of posts by each player from there if you click on a player’s post count it will bring up all of their posts in the thread. Just don’t try it with Meeko after Day 1 or you’ll crash the board. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/325 "2010-08-13T13:55:45Z")
**oneandonly** quick question. you bring up a valid point in that if scum were provided a tidied up copy of a town pm then **ed** could just be blowing smoke (my characterization of the post). but then you follow that up by giving an a++ rating to **ed** for posting what you previously have admitted could just be scum ammo. i don’t get this. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/326 "2010-08-13T14:04:40Z")
also, and i think it begs repeating. i believe that **sach** and **story** were involved in the devolpment of this game. coupled, with **maha** that’s a pretty savvy bunch. if there was a way to “handshake” i would bet my last dollar that they would figure out a way to not make it work. and i know that is kind of metagame but i’ve engaged with those folks enough to make that leap. therefore, i kind of take the counter position. the fact that **ed** tried to “handshake” makes me deeply suspicious of him as well as others that would support that position. now are they scum or just misguided townies would be the question. back in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/327 "2010-08-13T14:12:55Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > now are they scum or just misguided townies would be the question. /snip The fact that the handshaking attempt wasn’t based on the wincon sentence alone raises a number of question about the original intention. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/328 "2010-08-13T14:23:20Z")
**unvote all** **vote cucuy** policy lurker/non participant vote. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/329 "2010-08-13T14:24:02Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > now are they scum or just misguided townies would be the question. > > /snip The fact that the handshaking attempt wasn’t based on the wincon sentence alone raises a number of question about the original intention. Yup. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/330 "2010-08-13T14:28:56Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > policy lurker/non participant vote. Peeker has a policy?! Since when? ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/331 "2010-08-13T14:39:12Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > My grandmother is very sick. I don’t know when I’ll be back. OOG: I’m really sorry to hear this, **Normal**. ☹ Best wishes on her speedy recovery. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/332 "2010-08-13T15:01:41Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > **oneandonly** quick question. you bring up a valid point in that if scum were provided a tidied up copy of a town pm then **ed** could just be blowing smoke (my characterization of the post). > > but then you follow that up by giving an a++ rating to **ed** for posting what you previously have admitted could just be scum ammo. > > i don’t get this. assuming handshaking has ever been successful then why not now? In ALL gmes evah the mod could have secretly given a townie pm format to the scum. I believe that to be unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/333 "2010-08-13T15:15:39Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > In ALL gmes evah the mod could have secretly given a townie pm format to the scum. I believe that to be unlikely. If you are saying that you think it’s unlikely for this game: I would provide evidence to the contrary, seeing as the scum cover identities for Harry Potter contained the wincondition and powers for the town roles we were supposed to assume, but I cannot access the scum boards from that game. If anyone else can access them, and would like to post the section from the “polyjuice potions” thread please feel free to do so, so we can dispel this notion of handshakes being worth anything except exposing those with a desire to shake hands. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/334 "2010-08-13T15:27:28Z")
Not to mention that we’ve already had several textual inconsistencies between what people are claiming their role PMs say, so it seems more likely than anything else that **Mahaloth** et al. just made sure that a uniform handshake wouldn’t be possible across the board by varying the wording slightly from PM to PM. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/335 "2010-08-13T15:43:39Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Not to mention that we’ve already had several textual inconsistencies between what people are claiming their role PMs say, so it seems more likely than anything else that **Mahaloth** et al. just made sure that a uniform handshake wouldn’t be possible across the board by varying the wording slightly from PM to PM. ding ding ding, i think we have a winner. once again i am operating under the assumption that **story** had some say in this game design. **story** is notorious for making sure that this “handshake” shit will not break a game. to infer otherwise is really short sighted. he typically customizes his pm’s. so any conclusion about similarity or disparity is most likely random and really does nothing other than create horrible assumptions and bad conclusions. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/336 "2010-08-13T15:46:57Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > This. I must be missing something really obvious in relation to this handshaking stuff. Given the complete silence from the moderator, I only see enormous potential harm in continuing - or I’m just being paranoid. I agree. Without mod intervention, we have to assume our attempts at handshaking are ineffective. > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ **OaOW** , why do you claim to trust **Special Ed**? Do you have the same level of trust in **Red** or **Hoopy** or others? I’m not sure what he meant, but he came over to my house with a snuggy built for 2. I was kinda scared. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/337 "2010-08-13T15:48:12Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > My grandmother is very sick. I don’t know when I’ll be back. My bestest thoughts are with you and your family. I she gets better quickly ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/338 "2010-08-13T15:50:37Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > now are they scum or just misguided townies would be the question. > > /snip The fact that the handshaking attempt wasn’t based on the wincon sentence alone raises a number of question about the original intention. Interesting. So, you’ve managed to cast suspicion on my attempt because what I did raises multiple questions. However, I’m left unable to answer any of the questions because you haven’t actually posted any of them. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/339 "2010-08-13T15:52:54Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > > [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > > > /snip The fact that the handshaking attempt wasn’t based on the wincon sentence alone raises a number of question about the original intention. > > Yup. Do I need membership in some secret club to actually be able to see these mysterious questions? Or are you 2 just going to try yo build suspicion on me by winking and nodding at each other knowingly? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/340 "2010-08-13T15:57:31Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > > [@Gadarene](#): > > > > Yup. > > Do I need membership in some secret club to actually be able to see these mysterious questions? Or are you 2 just going to try yo build suspicion on me by winking and nodding at each other knowingly? jeebus **ed** i thought that you started the whole winking and nodding nonsense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=18)