# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1081 "2010-08-19T02:08:16Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > If **SP** comes up Scum, I think it looks like **ed** was protecting him. Wait, did you come up with this idea yourself? Or was it based on the who, I’ll gave Suburban the idea for claiming Denethor and using a palantir? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1082 "2010-08-19T02:09:27Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > and now it’s a crusade, eh? \ absofuckinglutely. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9V7zbWNznbs/hqdefault.jpg "French Taunting - Monty Python and the Holy Grail") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs) ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1083 "2010-08-19T02:10:41Z")
NETA: 'based on the whole," > [@special\_ed](#): > > > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > > > If **SP** comes up Scum, I think it looks like **ed** was protecting him. > > Wait, did you come up with this idea yourself? > > Or was it based on the who, I’ll gave Suburban the idea for claiming Denethor and using a palantir? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1084 "2010-08-19T02:15:37Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@special\_ed](#): > > > > and now it’s a crusade, eh? > > \ > > absofuckinglutely. > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs) oh. Monty Python Mafia might be interesting. but, imagine Holy Crusades Mafia! Pope Urban II as Godfather Saladin, Fredrick, Innocent so many great characters ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1085 "2010-08-19T02:30:16Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > and maybe we need to take this to the pit. i win this game at about a 80 percentile rate. you may not like the way i play, and that is cool, but it seems to have history on its side. > > i think i say plenty, fcs. if you are too obtuse to get it that is your problem, not mine. > > and how are they easy targets? because they are making limp arguments and conclusions. frack my vote is on someone that admits that the person they are votiing for is less likely scum than another person. how does that make sense? I don’t care what your overall success rate is, and besides, it’s totally irrelevant. Whether you win or lose may speak to your overall skill at playing the game, but says nothing about whether you are Town or Scum in this one. I’m attacking you for the fact that I think you are being deceptive\* in this game\*, not because I think you are a bad person. Or a bad player, for that matter. Just a ‘bad’ citizen of Middle Earth. > [@peekercpa](#): > > [oog] > > i really really want everyone to read what i say, especially **burb**. > > i play this game mean and dirty. as a result i get a little heated at times. but i want everyone to know that it is merely in the heat of battle that most of the posts are made. crap, and this probably speaks more about myself than anything else, but i consider all of you friends and we are just engaging in an activitiy that brings us some pleasure. > > and if i cross the line then all you need do is post it in thread or pm me. > > kthnxby{/oog} Hey, it’s all cool. We’re playing a game. I understand that. I’m taking nothing personally, and mean nothing personally. Now I hope you fall through the Cracks of Doom and die 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1086 "2010-08-19T02:31:44Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > oh. Monty Python Mafia might be interesting. Only if I get to be the Old Man from Scene 24 ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1087 "2010-08-19T02:57:13Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > [@special\_ed](#): > > > > oh. Monty Python Mafia might be interesting. > > Only if I get to be the Old Man from Scene 24 regardless of his role, I’m certain that peeker will fart in our general direction ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1088 "2010-08-19T03:10:59Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > > Only if I get to be the Old Man from Scene 24 > > regardless of his role, I’m certain that peeker will fart in our general direction **peeper** you durn soul. oh shit i think he got something right. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1089 "2010-08-19T03:38:57Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > I still feel that Astral’s vote and unvote of me are the most scummy individual action of the Day. I’m happy with my vote where it is for now. Jeez, I will never live that down for the rest of this game. 🙂 I understand where you’re coming from and you’ve heard my explanation plenty. Hopefully my other actions on this day and in coming days will change your mind about me. @Ed: I think I posted earlier that I was wrong about the whole additional handshaking business. I can understand if you’ve been glossing over my posts since, though! ---
**Author:** ![cucuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7feea3/32.png) [@cucuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cucuy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1090 "2010-08-19T05:00:03Z")
I just finished catching up on posts from where I left off last night. 4 pages to digest. I don’t have much to add. I’m comfortable leaving my vote on **SP** , despite the role claim. @ **Ed** , I am glad to see you’re still playing. For a minute I though you were throwing in the towel. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1091 "2010-08-19T05:03:21Z")
Lord almighty. You folks talk way way too much. Especially when we can’t get separate threads for each day. This is just ridiculous. As for me, my role pm is not similar in format to Plankton’s. The reason seems clear to me: he messed up a fake claim. So: **Vote Suburban Plankton** ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1092 "2010-08-19T05:17:22Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > > Why do you find that so interesting? Other than **peeker** ’s “lynch the lurkers” initiative, all of the voting has been done based on what people have posted. So the people who have posted the most have the most content to be examined and found suspect. Thus, they received the most votes. Squeaky wheels and all that… > > Exactly my point. We have a habit of lynching the loud. Someone who posts a lot probably says things that may be somewhat suspicious and it’s easy to vote that way. > > I suppose it’s almost inevitable on Day 1, but I think we need to be more careful > > And see, my mentioning it (albeit out of frustration) brings attention to it, and maybe we’ll be a little more aware. Not a bad thing at all. You just said it. It’s almost inevitable on Day 1. I wasn’t saying that it didn’t happen; I was saying that I couldn’t understand why you were acting like it was something notable, when to me it was obvious and expected. Especially since you were participating in it. > [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > > [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > > > You were the first person to cast a vote for \*\*Chronos \*\*(assuming my spreadsheet is correct) and you got in on me early on as well. That makes you much less suspicious in my mind. > > Why does him voting you or chronos early make him less suspicious? It makes me less suspicious of \*\*Hoopy \*\*than of **peeker** , because he (Hoopy) doesn’t seem to be merely following trends, voting wise. Or maybe it’s just because I’m overly suspicious of peeker at this point, so just about anything looks better in comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Chipacabra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Chipacabra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chipacabra)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1093 "2010-08-19T09:00:51Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > So, you think that there’s more than 1 phrasing for the Vanilla Win Condition? despite the fact that many have agreed to the win condition that Chronos stated. And despite the fact that no one countered that it wasn’t the win condition. And despite the fact that I corroborated it and still no one has argued against it? > > No, I must obviously be missing your point. Did I say win condition? I said VT condition, which was my brain dead way aphasic way of saying VT role PM because I swap words in my head sometimes. We’ve already established that people’s role PMs AREN’T consistent. Some people have already confirmed that their handshakes don’t match others. I hope those are either scum or VT with alternate fluff in their PMs, because otherwise power roles have announced their presence. Also, the people(looking at you, peeker) that are pointing FoS at me for voting Special Ed over Suburban are freaking insane. I’ve said over and over that I think Ed is Scum, and I think Suburban is quite possibly scum. Is scum \> is quite possibly scum. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1094 "2010-08-19T10:52:30Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > > [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > > > If **SP** comes up Scum, I think it looks like **ed** was protecting him. > > Wait, did you come up with this idea yourself? > > Or was it based on the who, I’ll gave Suburban the idea for claiming Denethor and using a palantir? Actually, it was more the whole “ooh, SP is picking up votes? I’ll start saying I lied about my name!” My guess there is that SP is not vanilla Scum, and you are. If anything other than that happens, you start to look a bit better. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1095 "2010-08-19T10:56:19Z")
> [@Chipacabra](#): > Did I say win condition? I said VT condition, which was my brain dead way aphasic way of saying VT role PM because I swap words in my head sometimes. We’ve already established that people’s role PMs AREN’T consistent. Some people have already confirmed that their handshakes don’t match others. I hope those are either scum or VT with alternate fluff in their PMs, because otherwise power roles have announced their presence. [/quote] OK, so you hope that there’s more than 1 Vanilla Town Role PM. OK. Good for you. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1096 "2010-08-19T10:57:21Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > > [@special\_ed](#): > > > > Wait, did you come up with this idea yourself? > > > > Or was it based on the who, I’ll gave Suburban the idea for claiming Denethor and using a palantir? > > Actually, it was more the whole “ooh, SP is picking up votes? I’ll start saying I lied about my name!” > > My guess there is that SP is not vanilla Scum, and you are. If anything other than that happens, you start to look a bit better. Um, can you cite where someone, anyone, lied about their name, please? ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1097 "2010-08-19T11:58:19Z")
In the total absence of ANYONE defending the format of SP’s role claim **unvote Astral vote Suburban Plankton** ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1098 "2010-08-19T11:59:08Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Jeez, I will never live that down for the rest of this game. 🙂 > > I understand where you’re coming from and you’ve heard my explanation plenty. Hopefully my other actions on this day and in coming days will change your mind about me. Possibly. I think the reason is sticks in my mind so much right now is because I know my own alignment and so the vote is particularly scummy to me. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1099 "2010-08-19T12:56:40Z")
**ed** , I was referring to the whole confusing Glorfindel vs. Faramir and “I have a magic bag whoopty woo!” thing you went through after people started questioning **SP**. I still have no clue what the eff you were talking about there. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1100 "2010-08-19T13:23:58Z")
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