# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 64
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1261 "2010-08-21T16:00:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > We’ll start in a moment, folks. please don’t let the conversation die if i am dead. that is boring and anti game. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1262 "2010-08-21T16:02:22Z")
f5 f5 f5 f5 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1263 "2010-08-21T16:03:54Z")
A little anxious, peek? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1264 "2010-08-21T16:05:12Z")
Sleep was fleeting. Their will and confidence were weak, but the Alliance of Light did rest and prepared(mentally) for the next Day. ``` “One, we should focus. Two, we should avoid wasteful discussion. Three, we must analyze our allies,” said one Alliance member. “Who are our allies?” said another. “Those who desire to see Sauron dead…..and his minions,” said another. As they reassembled in the morning, a key member of the Alliance was missing. “Where is Legolas, the elf?” A loud gasp was heard nearby, “He’s here!” Legolas lay unmoving in a field of grass. His body was cold. “He must have died in the Night,” said one individual. **Telconatar, who was Legolas is dead. He was known for his use of bow and daggers and was considered a protector of the Alliance of Light.*** It is now Day Two. Day Two ends Thursday, August 26 at Noon Eastern. ``` \*He was a standard doctor role and could protect one player per Night. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1265 "2010-08-21T16:06:30Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > A little anxious, peek? a bit nervous i admit. actually i just across something that reinforced a ping. and i’d like to share but don’t know if i will be alive. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1266 "2010-08-21T16:06:47Z")
Well, that sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1267 "2010-08-21T16:09:15Z")
NETA: I mean that the doc is dead. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1268 "2010-08-21T16:11:49Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > whoo! Another successful D1 lynch! > [@Oredigger77](#): > > Damn, I thought something was off but I don’t think we’ve ever hit scum on Day one. Nice work guys. I’d say I was going to reread Day one to figure out eha happened but damn I jus don’t have two days for nonstop reading. how come this reads as totally disjointed to me. one of these things is not like the other. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1269 "2010-08-21T16:12:50Z")
whoops, wrong post, sorry folks. back in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1270 "2010-08-21T16:36:07Z")
well almost deja-vu (harry potter). Oh yeah. For dropping and retrieving a weakly motivated defensive vote (on USCDiver) for Suburban Plankton. **vote Astral Rejection** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1271 "2010-08-21T16:39:21Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It is now Day Two. Day Two ends Thursday, August 26 at Noon Eastern. Ok, if Mod says so, I _ **SO** _ thought that Day Two started Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1272 "2010-08-21T16:40:41Z")
NETA : Telcontar has a knack for going out first day, doesn’t he? Not to mention that he has a kanck for being a doctor, as well. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1273 "2010-08-21T16:51:48Z")
With **Plankton** now dead, I see no reason not to resume my vote on **special ed**. **Vote special ed** This is based primarily on [his vote for **peeker** yesterDay](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12812434#post12812434): > [@](#): > > So, it’s possible that other Vanilla role PMs look different. I just think it unlikely. Which, as a corollary leads me to believe that you, peeper, are not in possession of a Vanilla Role PM. > > Unvote: Chronos > Vote: peepercpa First, there’s no evidence that **peeker** didn’t have a vanilla role PM, since he wisely didn’t say whether he had one or not, so **ed** is jumping to unwarranted conclusions, here. Second, not having the vanilla PM is hardly a reason to vote for someone, since the Town power roles don’t have it, either. Third, we’ve already come to an agreement that the Scum probably _do_ have the vanilla PM, so the fact that ( **ed** thinks) **peeker** doesn’t have the vanilla PM should make him think **peeker** is Town, not Scum. There are just multiple layers of incoherence, here. Then, after I [called him out on this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12812881#post12812881), he comes up with a new argument: [He thinks **peeker** is Scum because he’s playing differently than he did last time he was Scum](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12813034#post12813034). When I [point out that this isn’t a good argument, either](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12813226#post12813226), he [tries to claim that that was his original reason for voting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12813540#post12813540), even though he didn’t mention it in his vote post, or at all, until after I pointed out that his original argument was bad. Put this together with the fact that he didn’t unvote me once he realized his case on me was bad, and didn’t even admit that when he switched to **peeker** , it looks to me like he’s picking his targets first (both myself and **peeker** have had a history of it being easy to form bandwagons on us), and only then looking around for excuses to justify the votes. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1274 "2010-08-21T16:56:42Z")
On another note: I find it slightly surprising that we only had one death last Night: With this many players, this game is going to take friggin’ forever, without some extra kills. It’s possible, of course that we have a serial killer or Vig who can and did choose not to kill, or that we have multiple killers who chose the same target, or that **Telcontar** successfully protected someone else, or that a roleblocker blocked a killer, but still, I would have expected two or even three deaths. ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1275 "2010-08-21T17:18:47Z")
Ouch. Sorry, **Telcontar**. ☹ I knew I trusted you for a reason. **FOS Chipacapra and Astral Rejection** – I’ll gig some thoughts a bit later today. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1276 "2010-08-21T17:46:36Z")
\*\*Alive: 1. SpecialEd 2. Red Skeezix 3. Drain Bead 4. Meeko 5. Astral Rejection 6. OneandOnly 7. Chronos 8. Guiri 9. Snickers 10. Chipacabra 11. Pleonast 12. Inner Stickler 13. Oredigger 14. NanooktheNorthShore 15. MHaye 16 HoopyFrood 16. Cucuy 17. Peeker 18. Natlaw 19. Gadarene 20. USCDiver Dead:\*\* **Suburban Plankston – Denethor (Servant of Darkness – No special power)** **Telcontar – Legolas (Alliance of Light – Protector)** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1277 "2010-08-21T18:00:36Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > > > whoo! Another successful D1 lynch! > > > [@Oredigger77](#): > > > > Damn, I thought something was off but I don’t think we’ve ever hit scum on Day one. Nice work guys. I’d say I was going to reread Day one to figure out eha happened but damn I jus don’t have two days for nonstop reading. > > how come this reads as totally disjointed to me. > > one of these things is not like the other. ok, this is what happens when i become too myopically focused. i read the two posts as both coming from **wanderers** initially. c’mon they both start with “o”. shoot, my bad. but cripes you folks can get mouthy and stuff. hey, **ed** you alluded to something upthread that you couldn’t talk about. this really piques my interest. and i don’t want you to say something that you shouldn’t or can’t but i really would like some elaboration, if in fact you can provide it. plus i seem to recall that you have claimed two role names (or someone said it). one that was original and then your final one. this REALLY piques my interest. any additional data would be appreciated. and if it is what i think it is i am going to laugh my ass to the bank. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1278 "2010-08-21T18:03:36Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > well almost deja-vu (harry potter). > > Oh yeah. > > For dropping and retrieving a weakly motivated defensive vote (on USCDiver) for Suburban Plankton. > > **vote Astral Rejection** That’s a fair vote, Red. I can’t defend it against it. With Suburban swinging as a scum, that’s definitely one valid interpretation of my actions. I’m heading out for now, but I’ll be back later. I’m not exactly looking forward to reviewing all of this 26-page monstrosity, but it’s gotta be done. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1279 "2010-08-21T18:04:45Z")
**… shoulda bleached that. Sorry Mahaloth. I’m not actually voting against myself!** ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1280 "2010-08-21T18:26:55Z")
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