# Lord of the Rings Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1501 "2010-08-24T00:41:19Z")

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it’s just me putting 2 and 2 together and getting 7.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1502 "2010-08-24T00:41:28Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> i have no clue whether there are masons in this game. and i have certainly not been told that i am one if i am one. but a mechanism to confirm anonther person equates to me as a “mason”. i have no clue whether that is going on but i don’t put it past the bastards that designed this game.

I am 100% convinced that I am not a mason.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1503 "2010-08-24T00:42:21Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Well masons generally don’t have other powers, so if you believe you are some sort of mason, then it’s reasonable to assume you are otherwise powerless.

well my brother has the power to quote wikipedia.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1504 "2010-08-24T00:42:31Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> > [@special\_ed](#):
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> > um…I’m just a plain old Vanilla Town. No mention of my brother. no mention of anythng in my actual role PM. No idea what peeker is referring to.
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> no reference to my brother in my actual pm as well.

in fact, I would wager strongly that every PM might have mention of ‘your family and loved ones’

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1505 "2010-08-24T00:43:06Z")

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And you have such a mechanism? There is precedent for such a thing, cf. the freemasons in the conspiracy games. But Ed denies the existence of such in his role pm so its either onesided or not present here. How would you propose such a thing to work peeker? One person posts their rolename and someone else bursts in with, “Oh, I’m your sister/brother/mother/father/neighbor/college roommate, we must both be town”?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1506 "2010-08-24T00:48:03Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> > [@peekercpa](#):
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> > no reference to my brother in my actual pm as well.
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> in fact, I would wager strongly that every PM might have mention of ‘your family and loved ones’

Nope.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1507 "2010-08-24T00:49:09Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> > [@special\_ed](#):
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> > in fact, I would wager strongly that every PM might have mention of ‘your family and loved ones’
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> Nope.

oh, that’s a surprise

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1508 "2010-08-24T00:50:10Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> > [@Gadarene](#):
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> > Nope.
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> oh, that’s a surprise

Makes me wonder who might be in Glorfindel’s family.

Makes me disappointed that Tolkien never really worked out who Glorfindel was

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1509 "2010-08-24T00:52:03Z")

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**Gadarene** , when you say that you know what **peeker** is talking about, does that mean that you, also, have been forbidden to say something?

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1510 "2010-08-24T00:54:04Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> And you have such a mechanism? There is precedent for such a thing, cf. the freemasons in the conspiracy games. But Ed denies the existence of such in his role pm so its either onesided or not present here. How would you propose such a thing to work peeker? One person posts their rolename and someone else bursts in with, “Oh, I’m your sister/brother/mother/father/neighbor/college roommate, we must both be town”?

ok, in the game i am semi designing masons would not be told who each were. they would be given little snippets of information that if they were smart enough they would be able to connect. in that way town gets a huge bonus if they are smart enough and nada if they just pass on each other. and since there would be no ways of communication or even confirming each other then it ends up being a whole game within a game. and top it off, don’t even let the “masons” know that is what is going on. kind of let them figure it out.

there is something that is very similar to what **ed** is describing with what is going on with me. if i believe him, which i do, then he is faramir. i know that i am boromir and need to take care of my little brother. i’m following canon at this point.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1511 "2010-08-24T00:54:39Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> hee hee, this puppy should liven up a little, now.

but Daddy was a bad guy. Why should I trust you?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1512 "2010-08-24T00:56:38Z")

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_files that snippet away for future reference when peeker unveils his game_

Interesting discussion choice, peeker.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1513 "2010-08-24T00:58:31Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> > [@special\_ed](#):
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> > in fact, I would wager strongly that every PM might have mention of ‘your family and loved ones’
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> Nope.

this is certainly troubling.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1514 "2010-08-24T01:00:49Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> > [@peekercpa](#):
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> > hee hee, this puppy should liven up a little, now.
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> but Daddy was a bad guy. Why should I trust you?

uh fuck dude i had to go get killed by bad orcs and stuff while you just stayed at home and slept with the wenches.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1515 "2010-08-24T01:03:51Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> _files that snippet away for future reference when peeker unveils his game_
> 
> Interesting discussion choice, peeker.

well we’ve done all the standard mafia 101 nonsense. guess it’s time to kick it into graduate level.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1516 "2010-08-24T01:04:20Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> **Gadarene** , when you say that you know what **peeker** is talking about, does that mean that you, also, have been forbidden to say something?

No, I just noticed the “loved ones” language, which I don’t have in my PM, and I figured it out from context.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1517 "2010-08-24T01:04:21Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> > [@special\_ed](#):
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> > but Daddy was a bad guy. Why should I trust you?
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> uh fuck dude i had to go get killed by bad orcs and stuff while you just stayed at home and slept with the wenches.

he covered me in oil and lit me on fire while I was unconscious because he made me go attempt suicide because you died while gallivanting around

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1518 "2010-08-24T01:07:48Z")

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> [@Gadarene](#):
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> > [@Chronos](#):
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> > **Gadarene** , when you say that you know what **peeker** is talking about, does that mean that you, also, have been forbidden to say something?
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> No, I just noticed the “loved ones” language, which I don’t have in my PM, and I figured it out from context.

no one loves you?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1519 "2010-08-24T01:10:46Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> > [@Gadarene](#):
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> > Nope.
> 
> this is certainly troubling.

Why?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1520 "2010-08-24T01:10:48Z")

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This is why people complain about the days being too full of fluff, jsyk.

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