# Lord of the Rings Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1541 "2010-08-24T01:33:21Z")

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I’m vaguely tempted to vote for peeker and/or Ed just to stop the goddam BS posts. No peeker, vaguely coherent basically fluff is not graduate level mafia. Making yourself difficult to understand does not make you a better player, nor does it help Town.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1542 "2010-08-24T01:34:05Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> IHIHBIDSHBW

ihncwtistm. c. p.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1543 "2010-08-24T01:34:18Z")

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> [@Snickers](#):
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> > [@peekercpa](#):
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> > jsyk i think we should kill sahm.
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> Hey! My mom was a SAHM!

um…that’s not a good thing

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1544 "2010-08-24T01:35:56Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> First of all, you did read the part about how the forces of darkness have infiltrated us, right? Just because there’s someone who claims to be your brother, doesn’t mean he is. Second, this game is supposed to be accessible to folks not familiar with the canon. Third, and I realize that you only have my word on this, if **Mahaloth** intended that Boromir know who Faramir is, or vice-versa, he would have just told you (considering that that’s how it worked with me).

\*\*Mahaloth \*\*told you that Boromir would know who Faramir is?

Sorry. I’m getting a little punchy, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1545 "2010-08-24T01:37:19Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> um…that’s not a good thing

Says you!

(Every time I see that, I think “stay at home mom.” Which she was.)

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1546 "2010-08-24T01:41:27Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Quoth **peeker** :
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> > [@](#):
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> > ok, in the game i am semi designing masons would not be told who each were. they would be given little snippets of information that if they were smart enough they would be able to connect. in that way town gets a huge bonus if they are smart enough and nada if they just pass on each other. and since there would be no ways of communication or even confirming each other then it ends up being a whole game within a game. and top it off, don’t even let the “masons” know that is what is going on. kind of let them figure it out.
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> > there is something that is very similar to what ed is describing with what is going on with me. if i believe him, which i do, then he is faramir. i know that i am boromir and need to take care of my little brother. i’m following canon at this point.
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> First of all, you did read the part about how the forces of darkness have infiltrated us, right? Just because there’s someone who claimsthe to be your brother, doesn’t mean he is. Second, this game is supposed to be accessible to folks not familiar with the canon. Third, and I realize that you only have my word on this, if **Mahaloth** intended that Boromir know who Faramir is, or vice-versa, he would have just told you (considering that that’s how it worked with me).

i understand that and i apologize for the frivolity, but not much. there is nowhere in my pm that states emphatically that faramir would be good in this game. shoot there is nowhere in my pm that states that faramir is in this game at all. i was just trying to follow canon a wee bit. and of the two of us i would suspect me before him is all i was trying to convey. this is a game mechanism that i have been toying with and it seems to play based on behaviors thus far.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1547 "2010-08-24T01:45:19Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Well, I don’t know anything about **Plankton** ’s actual motivations, but at a guess: He was of course trying to pass as Town, and so was behaving as though he didn’t know what side I’m on. It looks to me like he’s just saying that **Hoopy** is being active and aggressive, and that he’s (pretending to) give him credit for that. But I don’t know; maybe he was just picking people at random to focus on, or maybe he was trying to set me up for a frame in case he went down, or maybe he was inclined to like anyone going after someone he knew to be Town, or maybe **Hoopy** is Scum, too, and he was looking for things to praise him for, or maybe he had some completely different reason for that that I can’t even guess at.

Fair enough. But **Plankton** ’s quote could also look like he was behaving as if he \*did \*know what side you were on; namely, his.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1548 "2010-08-24T01:46:51Z")

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> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#):
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> I’m vaguely tempted to vote for peeker and/or Ed just to stop the goddam BS posts. No peeker, vaguely coherent basically fluff is not graduate level mafia. Making yourself difficult to understand does not make you a better player, nor does it help Town.

what in the world do you want **nook**?

no bs question.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1549 "2010-08-24T01:48:01Z")

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i mean do you want me to go player by player?

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1550 "2010-08-24T01:51:43Z")

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ok, i’ll try based on post count.

**peek** jeebus he talks a lot but i also have first hand experience that he is town.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1551 "2010-08-24T01:52:47Z")

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**ed** man he posts a ton but he is my little brother. got take care of him.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1552 "2010-08-24T01:54:14Z")

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**gadaren** much more active than normal. kind of pissing me off so he might be ok.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1553 "2010-08-24T01:55:30Z")

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**chronos** man he is posting a lot this game. and the fact that he is somehwhat defending me is kind of waking me up to his presence.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1554 "2010-08-24T01:56:28Z")

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Is it worth speculating on whether this game closely follows canon, and if so, which one? Does it follow the books more closely or the movie more closely? There’s some differences between the two. For example, bookFaramir is not really tempted by The Ring (he lets Frodo and Sam go), movieFaramir is tempted. Arwin’s character has slight changes between the book and the movie, too. (There’s probably more, I just can’t think of them right now.)

If these characters are roles in game, knowing which canon was followed might have implications for these players. Maybe? Maybe not.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1555 "2010-08-24T01:56:51Z")

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**hoopy** not as active as i would have thougth. real inconsistent in logic and reasonsing. but it is good to have him back again.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1556 "2010-08-24T01:57:56Z")

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**burb** is dead

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1557 "2010-08-24T01:59:04Z")

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**maha** is the primary mod. good guy as near as i can tell.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1558 "2010-08-24T02:00:06Z")

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**astral** and please don’t take this wrong but i really worry about the big dogs. seems to be all over the board.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1559 "2010-08-24T02:01:07Z")

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**pleo** heebus soft claim and then nada. that really makes me worry. but he always pulls this shit so wifom.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1560 "2010-08-24T02:05:41Z")

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WTF. I just read two pages and I feel noticeably stupider. I think I hate you all.

Seriously, what the hell was that about?

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