# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1561 "2010-08-24T02:06:50Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > **gadaren** much more active than normal. kind of pissing me off so he might be ok. “More active than normal” in that I haven’t played Mafia in three years? 🙂 (And last game I played, I wouldn’t shut up.) ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1562 "2010-08-24T02:21:21Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > > > IHIHBIDSHBW > > ihncwtistm. c. p. jesus, **peeker** , I have no clue what this is supposed to mean! > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > But in all seriousness, we’ve gotten a little offtrack here. Now someone explain to diver what’s going on. > > What we have learned so far is that Ed says he’s not a mason and peeker thinks he might be a sleeper agent mason with ed. Have I got that right? OK wait, \*\*peeker \*\*thinks he’s a sleeper mason based on a mechanic he is developing for a game that hasn’t been played yet because ed has the phrase “your family and loved ones” in his (claimed) PM? and so \*\*peeker \*\*is claiming to be Boromir who is Faramir’s brother (the role \*\*ed \*\*has claimed). And this is despite the fact that both claim to have no information related to their brother included in their Role PM? AND despite the fact that \*\*ed \*\*has said his ?extra? information is related to Glorfindel and has nothing to do with Bormir. Have I got that right so far? Because I also have the line “your family and loved ones” in my PM, but as far as I can tell from Wikipedia, my character doesn’t have any family who are specifically named in the book or movie. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1563 "2010-08-24T02:23:59Z")
Quoth **Snickers** : > [@](#): > > Fair enough. But Plankton’s quote could also look like he was behaving as if he did know what side you were on; namely, his. I can see how that interpretation might seem plausible, yes, to someone other than myself. I was just pointing out that there are many other possible interpretations, since I know that interpretation wasn’t correct. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1564 "2010-08-24T02:30:06Z")
fuck i got to **skeez** and started thinking about poker and said fuck it. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1565 "2010-08-24T02:32:43Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > ihncwtistm. c. p. > > jesus, **peeker** , I have no clue what this is supposed to mean! > > > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > > > But in all seriousness, we’ve gotten a little offtrack here. Now someone explain to diver what’s going on. > > > > What we have learned so far is that Ed says he’s not a mason and peeker thinks he might be a sleeper agent mason with ed. Have I got that right? > > OK wait, \*\*peeker \*\*thinks he’s a sleeper mason based on a mechanic he is developing for a game that hasn’t been played yet because ed has the phrase “your family and loved ones” in his (claimed) PM? and so \*\*peeker \*\*is claiming to be Boromir who is Faramir’s brother (the role \*\*ed \*\*has claimed). And this is despite the fact that both claim to have no information related to their brother included in their Role PM? AND despite the fact that \*\*ed \*\*has said his ?extra? information is related to Glorfindel and has nothing to do with Bormir. > > Have I got that right so far? > > Because I also have the line “your family and loved ones” in my PM, but as far as I can tell from Wikipedia, my character doesn’t have any family who are specifically named in the book or movie. damn, you were right there. i have no clue what this is supposed to mean. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1566 "2010-08-24T02:33:44Z")
and i probably just got wooshed. my bad. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1567 "2010-08-24T02:35:58Z")
i did get whooshed. fucking touche **diver**. holy fuck i love this game and you folks. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1568 "2010-08-24T02:38:30Z")
**Peeker, are you wearing a bomb that is set to detonate if your posting speed goes less than 55 pph ?** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1569 "2010-08-24T02:42:54Z")
> [@Snickers](#): > > Is it worth speculating on whether this game closely follows canon, and if so, which one? Does it follow the books more closely or the movie more closely? There’s some differences between the two. For example, bookFaramir is not really tempted by The Ring (he lets Frodo and Sam go), movieFaramir is tempted. Arwin’s character has slight changes between the book and the movie, too. (There’s probably more, I just can’t think of them right now.) > > If these characters are roles in game, knowing which canon was followed might have implications for these players. Maybe? Maybe not. hee hee, and i have found my next best mafia friend. let the game commence. canon is what canon is. the extent that follows the game is up to the mod. we’ve got some sneaky fuckers here is all i would warn you. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1570 "2010-08-24T02:46:12Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **Peeker, are you wearing a bomb that is set to detonate if your posting speed goes less than 55 pph ?** nope. but there have been some activities lately on this board that are anti game. i will not allow that to happen in this game. there are debts that need to be paid. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1571 "2010-08-24T02:47:44Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > i did get whooshed. fucking touche **diver**. holy fuck i love this game and you folks. Gotcha ya! ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1572 "2010-08-24T02:51:54Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > i did get whooshed. fucking touche **diver**. holy fuck i love this game and you folks. > > Gotcha ya! that was a good one, by the way. better than the rickroll thing. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1573 "2010-08-24T02:52:05Z")
I think my I just suffered a temporary IQ and/or Sanity loss from reading the last two or so pages. I just hope it’s not permanent. And if you can’t figure out the difference between my actions and Chip’s actions, peeker, well there’s nothing more I can say. Needless to say, there isn’t any inconsistency if you actually look at our respective situations. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1574 "2010-08-24T02:55:33Z")
neta: you have to split the durn bed with **ed** in the garage by the way. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1575 "2010-08-24T03:04:16Z")
> [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > I think my I just suffered a temporary IQ and/or Sanity loss from reading the last two or so pages. > > I just hope it’s not permanent. > > And if you can’t figure out the difference between my actions and Chip’s actions, peeker, well there’s nothing more I can say. Needless to say, there isn’t any inconsistency if you actually look at our respective situations. no they are absolutely similar. and that’s what is discongruent to me. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1576 "2010-08-24T03:09:55Z")
this is a no b.s. question has anyone read bachman. i mentioned it earlier but no on responded. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1577 "2010-08-24T03:10:56Z")
neta: or updike for that matter. i think they all align. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1578 "2010-08-24T03:13:07Z")
In all seriousness, as to the question of “which canon”: If **ed** is to be believed, **Mahaloth** at least considered including Glorfindel in some way or another (possibly as a Scum cover name?). So far as I know, there was no appearance by or mention of Glorfindel whatsoever in the movies. So that would seem to imply that there’s at least some influence from the books in the game. I’m not sure if it makes any difference, though. The biggest change to a character from book to movie is Arwen, and even in the movies, she doesn’t really do much besides one horse-ride, looking hot, and getting mushy with Aragorn. Faramir, as you mentioned, also changed some, but we’ve already seen a claim that Faramir is vanilla. And the only other changes I can think of all just amounted to adding a little more comic relief. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1579 "2010-08-24T03:24:33Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > I’m not sure why you (or **Meeko** ) expect any information from me. \*\*You are not confirmed. You have no teeth here. Keep that in mind. \*\* > [@Chronos](#): > > Quoth **Pleonast** : > > > [@](#): > > > > I typically don’t post during fluff-only Nights, because it’s a waste of my time. I’m not sure why you’re asking me to PM you, since that’s not allowed. > > You misunderstand. He’s asking if you had any Night actions of note, or PMs to or from the moderator. **Since you claimed a power role, and all**. \*\* THIS.\*\* So, You are Power Role town, and I am supposed to take your word for it? \*\* Or rather, I am supposed to take your NON word for it, but confirm you for it anyway?\*\* Where is the Town motivation in that? It is not Fishing in the slightest. You entered this game by magic bag claiming. A vote against you for not backing that up is the price of admission. [I believe there is a pun here, but I can’t find it.] You can’t pre-ordain yourself as Power Town, and teflon everything else based on your unconfirmed claim. We are well down the road of you being quasi-confirmed based just on your words alone. At best you are pseudo-confirmed. I’m one to make sure that we don’t forget that. I can smell the Fallacy from here. I can’t name it, but then again, my track record with Occam’s Razor and Wine is not the best it should be. All I need to know is that part of this is NOT kosher. And that’s enough for me. Ed and Peeker can spam the game all they want with disenfranchising cannon specific trvial tidbits that I can’t begin to decipher. That’s fine, I will go for the vote on the guy that is playing too big for his britches, at any role. One requires uber-specific knowledge of canon shoe-horned into a Mafia game, and the other is universal, in Mafia and otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1580 "2010-08-24T03:24:56Z")
i am not so sure that it is that simple **chronos**. and maybe i ascribe to **ed** too much. and for that i may pay a price, namely death. but i do not care. **ed** tried to pull a handshake which by his own admission and examples is not real effective. but he was town when he did it. i find it hard to believe that a scum **ed** would try and pull the same nonsense. if he is faramir and i am boromir (which i don’t expect any one to buy at this point) then we can self confirm. and based on canon it fits. especially with these durn mods. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867.md?page=80)