# Lord of the Rings Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 93

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1841 "2010-08-28T03:37:13Z")

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You’re not curious about my name? Lame. 🙂

I’ve been lurking here at the straight dope for an unbelievably long amount of time. I remember back when it was the last chance to buy a charter membership, if you can believe it. I’ve always been in love with the straight dope, and it’s one of my favorite websites to read.

But, I never felt like I had anything to add to the conversation. So I lurked and I lurked and I lurked, until about a year ago when I finally decided to join up. My favorite usernames to come across were puns of some kind, and Astral Rejection just popped into my head. I liked it, so here I am!

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1842 "2010-08-28T05:14:57Z")

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Red Skeezix =

Red = I’m a ginger.

Skeezix = I’m a white collar biker.  
Also, One and Only is i believe a homage to the Bolton Wanderers Football Club?

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1843 "2010-08-28T05:21:04Z")

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I made my name up out of whole cloth.

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**Author:** ![cucuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7feea3/32.png) [@cucuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cucuy)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1844 "2010-08-28T05:22:49Z")

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I spent a summer in '88 as a camp counselor, and my nickname was “Shadow.” I wanted to use a similar name online (since there’s more than plenty of “Shadows” out there), and after watching a George Lopez _Showtime_ special I decide on **cucuy**. It’s the Hispanic version of the boogeyman.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1845 "2010-08-28T13:54:01Z")

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> [@Red\_Skeezix](#):
>
> Red Skeezix =
> 
> Red = I’m a ginger.
> 
> Skeezix = I’m a white collar biker.  
> Also, One and Only is i believe a homage to the Bolton Wanderers Football Club?

There are a few ‘Wanderers’ clubs - Bolton, Wolverhampton, Wycombe. The fans of each would chant ‘We are the One and Only Wanderers’…

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1846 "2010-08-28T15:59:09Z")

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Just a moment, folks.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1847 "2010-08-28T16:08:54Z")

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The change in the feeling in the air overnight was astounding. Suddenly, it had become menacing, thick, and frightening. If the Alliance of the Light had been fearful before Dawn, they were absolutely terrified as light fell across the land.

```
As light rose, it was still dim and the new Day was windless. 

Something had happened over night and after a tireless and swift search, it was easy to find out what had occurred.

Gadarene was found dead inside his tenet. He did not look like he had suffered. In fact, he lay there stiff and if he had not been cold and pale, he would have looked asleep. He clearly had made no struggle against his foe and death came to him before he could ever react.

**Gadarene, who was Aragorn, is now dead. He was a member of the Alliance of Light and was a Ranger who possessed several special objects.**

“This is a great blow to us. This wound hurts us deeply,” muttered one Alliance member, who was met with agreement by all.

It is now Day Three. Day Three ends Thursday, September 2 at Noon Eastern.
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1848 "2010-08-28T16:25:18Z")

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I was afraid of that… He let slip a few times that he was a power role, but I didn’t want to point it out.

With that, it’s now time for me to back up my [hashcrumb](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12798267#post12798267). The hash I originally posted was

```auto

093220ee6df5628413c40e71e086d5f0

```

The original message I used to produce this hash, as can be verified by [any MD5 hash generator](http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/md5.php), was

```auto

I am Eowyn; Gadarene is Aragorn

```

My original PM is as follows:

> [@](#):
>
> Lord of the Rings Role PM  
> You are Eowyn.
> 
> You are a member of the Alliance of Light.
> 
> You are truly frightened about a future controlled by Sauron. You are sure that Sauron and his minions would destroy all good in Middle-earth.
> 
> Role Information:
> 
> 1. You have a close relationship with Aragorn. Because of this, you know his true identity. Aragorn is Gadarene.
> 
> 2. Aragorn has been so busy lately, he may not know your true identity.
> 
> You win when all threats to the Alliance of Light have been destroyed.

Any questions?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1849 "2010-08-28T16:31:03Z")

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I’m mobile. Sucks on death.[B] Vote ed\*\* for handshake failure and the misleading talk on the tree guy thing leading to mis lynch.

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1850 "2010-08-28T16:38:45Z")

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Another power role outed by special ed.

> [@Gadarene](#):
>
> > [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
> >
> > Confirmed.
> > 
> > My role pm meets special Ed’s handshake
> > 
> > I’ll add 6 Y’s to the pile
> 
> I’m only counting 5 Y’s, and I’ve gone over it a bunch of times to make sure.
> 
> How many Us and Cs, **Wanderers**?

**Vote Special Ed.**

Thanks for finding the hash for me, Chronos. I’d been searching for it, but I couldn’t find it. Nobody else has claimed a power like yours, but I wonder if there might be another like it out there somewhere?

**Mahaloth, what were those special objects?**

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1851 "2010-08-28T17:43:59Z")

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uh, shit.

**[color=green]mod question: is this game gastard or could it be construed that way by certain folks? and by that i think you know what i mean. is the information you provide certain folks via pm consistent with information provided in the game?[color]**

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1852 "2010-08-28T17:45:10Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
>
> uh, shit.
> 
> **mod question: is this game gastard or could it be construed that way by certain folks? and by that i think you know what i mean. is the information you provide certain folks via pm consistent with information provided in the game?**

fucking hell no preview. and i colored my original post so i hope that doesn’t entail sanctions.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1853 "2010-08-28T17:47:34Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
>
> **mod question: is this game gastard or could it be construed that way by certain folks? and by that i think you know what i mean. is the information you provide certain folks via pm consistent with information provided in the game?**

It’s not Gastard and could not be construed that way.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1854 "2010-08-28T18:13:19Z")

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Oh, yeah, and also

**Vote Special Ed**

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1855 "2010-08-28T18:14:00Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
>
> Another power role outed by special ed.
> 
> > [@Gadarene](#):
> >
> > I’m only counting 5 Y’s, and I’ve gone over it a bunch of times to make sure.
> > 
> > How many Us and Cs, **Wanderers**?
> 
> Vote Special Ed.
> 
> Thanks for finding the hash for me, Chronos. I’d been searching for it, but I couldn’t find it. Nobody else has claimed a power like yours, but I wonder if there might be another like it out there somewhere?
> 
> **Mahaloth, what were those special objects?**

Again, I agree that the handshaking attempt was spectacularly unsuccessful.  
However, if scum had access to a vanilla role pm, why did SP make a claim that referenced servants of darkness instead of SAHM? I still don’t see Ed as scum

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1856 "2010-08-28T18:36:38Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> Again, I agree that the handshaking attempt was spectacularly unsuccessful.  
> However, if scum had access to a vanilla role pm, why did SP make a claim that referenced servants of darkness instead of SAHM? I still don’t see Ed as scum

Maybe the Scums’ own PMs referenced SoDs instead of SahMs, and (since he was using his real name) he decided to just edit his genuine PM a bit. Or maybe he made up everything in the PM except the name from whole cloth, but referenced the opening color instead of the provided vanilla PM when he did so. Or maybe he thought that the genuine power roles _didn’t_ have SahM in their PMs, and so deliberately avoided that phrasing.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1857 "2010-08-28T18:37:07Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
>
> I was afraid of that… He let slip a few times that he was a power role, but I didn’t want to point it out.
> 
> With that, it’s now time for me to back up my [hashcrumb](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12798267#post12798267). The hash I originally posted was
> 
> ```auto
> 
> 093220ee6df5628413c40e71e086d5f0
> 
> ```
> 
> The original message I used to produce this hash, as can be verified by [any MD5 hash generator](http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/md5.php), was
> 
> ```auto
> 
> I am Eowyn; Gadarene is Aragorn
> 
> ```
> 
> My original PM is as follows:
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > Lord of the Rings Role PM  
> > You are Eowyn.
> > 
> > You are a member of the Alliance of Light.  
> > and if  
> > You are truly frightened about a future controlled by Sauron. You are sure that Sauron and his minions would destroy all good in Middle-earth.
> > 
> > Role Information:
> > 
> > 1. You have a close relationship with Aragorn. Because of this, you know his true identity. Aragorn is Gadarene.
> > 
> > 2. Aragorn has been so busy lately, he may not know your true identity.
> > 
> > You win when all threats to the Alliance of Light have been destroyed.
> 
> Any questions?

do you have any clue why the mods would have styled your pm to be “role information” as opposed to “powers”? and if it something that realeases too much information please just take the fifth, fcs.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1858 "2010-08-28T18:48:59Z")

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You’d have to ask **Mahaloth** that. And of course he won’t answer until after the game.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1859 "2010-08-28T19:45:20Z")

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\*\*Vote Count:

Specialed(2): Astralrejection, Chronos  
\*\*

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/1860 "2010-08-28T19:48:41Z")

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Also:

**No more subbing at this point.**

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