# Lord of the Rings Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867 "2010-08-10T19:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 825
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867/825 "2010-08-18T04:11:28Z")
> [@Astral Rejection\[/quote](#): > > You introduced the handshaking, which didn’t work. I can’t hold that against you, since you seemed to be helping the town. But your questioning of Chronos never sat right with me. You asked what his win condition section looked like, and then sprung a Gotcha! moment on him when he answered. The whole semantic debate seemed like such an unnecessary distraction, even if you were technically right about the lack of a specific, explicit win condition section. > [@special ed](#): > > OK, so I was right, and Chronos was mistaken. I don’t think your case-building is off to a good start. You have completely ignored why I brought this up. “So I was right and Chronos was mistaken” does not answer my question. Why did you ask Chronos what his win condition “section” said, if you didn’t believe you had a win condition “section?” > [@special ed](#): > > Handshake failure: > > 1. Not a pool of confirmed Town players = Neutral Wrong. A handshake failure does indeed not create a pool of confirmed town players. But it also hands scum plenty of information about the people who played along. Especially now that you’ve handed them a complete vanilla town PM to compare against those who posted. You were _assuming_ they had one. Now it’s certain. Anti-town, pro scum. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lord-of-the-rings-mafia/549867)._