# Lorelei and the Laser Eyes - huge recommendation from me **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [July 27, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868 "2024-07-27T22:58:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/21 "2024-07-29T05:02:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > They…still have offline mode for games like this, right? Did you have trouble running the game offline? It is not a multiplayer game or something that needs internet access. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > If anyone else on the board plays this game, PLEASE share your thoughts and inquiries here. OK… my question is, is there a secret, or secret secret ending? I got something like, “This is as close to the truth as we will ever get” after my final memory. Also, What exactly were you up to between 1963 and 1982? And after 1982? You “briefly resurface” in 1973, and in 1982 you were on an “infamous pilgrimage”, which apparently freaked out your companions (at least one of whom was unnerved by _your_ demeanour). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/22 "2024-07-29T22:32:42Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > OK… my question is, is there a secret, or secret secret ending? I got something like, “This is as close to the truth as we will ever get” after my final memory. No, no secret ending and no bonus for recovering 100% Memories or “Truth” or whatever the percentage thing was. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/23 "2024-07-30T02:19:27Z")
You seem pretty sure 🙂 I have not been able to find anything, either. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/24 "2024-07-30T02:43:31Z")
I asked because I only got a little under 100% and I wanted to know. Nope, it’s just an accomplishment. Finding every single $1 bill is a requirement for 100%. I didn’t find them all. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/25 "2024-08-01T08:28:45Z")
How about, When you first met Renzo, he complimented you on your “laser eyes”, and other people also seem impressed by your work so presumably it was not just flattery. But, in the final scene of the game, Renzo’s image (?!?) says some words like that there is no such thing as laser eyes and as with all stories it’s like a dog’s tail moving independently. Given that he is the dog, what is he saying, that he manipulated you from the very beginning to further his “Third Eye” project and moreover his ideas kept a grip on you after his own demise? The last part may be sort of true. But is he, and if so why does he, disparage your talent with the “no laser eyes” comment while everyone else has been awed by your vision and intensity? Or is it simply that, since Renzo is dead and this is all in your head anyway, you are expressing regret over how you carried on? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/26 "2024-08-01T13:00:31Z")
Did anyone besides me try calling every single room in the hotel? Just dial their number. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/27 "2024-08-01T21:10:29Z")
Yes I did… ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/28 "2024-08-01T21:22:16Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Finding every single $1 bill is a requirement for 100%. I didn’t find them all. Not true. I think you only need $70 to buy the three BYTE SEYES games and unlock the magician stories. You don’t need to buy the coffee subscription or the trinkets.. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/29 "2024-08-01T21:29:47Z")
Agreed about it being a 9/10 game. I did “cheat” at one part. I have terrible memory for some types of detail, so for the questions from the “police” I took pictures of the scene with my phone and looked at them later. I guess I could have drawn them in my notebook, but… eh. Once or twice I brute-forced a puzzle. There’s one where I figured out part of the logic but still couldn’t narrow it down further. So I tried all of the several possibilities. I loved the pen-and-paper solution finding. Last time I did that was for _The Witness_–another excellent puzzle game. Steam says I have 23 hours in it. I did 100% it and spent some time unlocking extra achievements, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/30 "2024-08-01T23:54:39Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > I loved the pen-and-paper solution finding. Last time I did that was for _The Witness_–another excellent puzzle game. Hey, me too! ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/31 "2024-08-01T23:56:36Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > Once or twice I brute-forced a puzzle. There’s one where I figured out part of the logic but still couldn’t narrow it down further. So I tried all of the several possibilities. Which ones? My main stuck puzzle was the safe with tetris shaped buttons. When I saw the solution, I groaned. I get it, but it was lame. I never once died from any gunshot. Did anyone? Does it really cost you all progress since your last save? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/32 "2024-08-02T00:30:22Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Which ones? The main one that comes to mind is one of the shortcut puzzles, which IIRC was: V+L = 135 L = ??? Ok, an obvious Roman numeral thing. V+L looks like 45, or possibly 55. L is 50. But I’m not seeing the connection with 135. I figure though that the answer has to be a multiple of 5 somehow. And probably a multiple of 10. So I try all of those and get an answer of 90. Still don’t know what the meaning was. Probably something dumb. The main head-slapping puzzle for me was the Orangerie. Just didn’t click right away, so I was massively overthinking it, trying lists of years for the numbers that would have been on the keypad, and so on. Eventually I just stared at it for a while until I got it. Oh, and the piano puzzle was rather silly. Another case of massively overthinking it. I did get shot once, by the minotaur at the center of the maze. Was sort of expecting it, but I wanted to see how to enter the data. Once I understood it was greek letters, the rest was straightfoward. And yeah, it goes back to the last save. But I’m a compulsive saver, so it was hardly a setback. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/33 "2024-08-02T00:36:54Z")
> [@Dr.Strangelove](#): > > The main one that comes to mind is one of the shortcut puzzles, which IIRC was Oh, and a _failed_ brute forcing was: The astrological clock. I hadn’t unlocked the orangerie yet, which meant I didn’t have access to the revolver room, which meant I didn’t have the list of dates from one of the mannequins. So I was trying lots of things. The dials had years on them, and three of those years matched the birth dates on the headstones. The headstones had messages like “Third and fourth”, which I thought might mean March 4th (third month and fourth day), or maybe April 3rd. So I tried those combinations, with the fourth one being unknown, which I brute forced. And then tried the opposite month/day ordering. Obviously, none of these things panned out, and really the whole puzzle was trivial once I got the orangerie open. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/34 "2024-08-02T01:22:37Z")
Did you all agree that after the big culminating puzzle: Successfully logging into the supercomputer The game went on a bit too long? It wasn’t hard at that point, but I was like “Come on, I did it! I won!” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/35 "2024-08-02T01:39:42Z")
Yeah, I think they could have ended the puzzles there. I ended up doing it twice to get the 100% achievement. I tried changing an answer: One question’s hint was “responsible.” The first time I put in Lorelei. The second time, I thought: maybe I can change the ending entering Renzo, as if she blamed him for the events (hardly unreasonable). But it didn’t take. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/36 "2024-08-02T03:07:32Z")
Well, If you read the description of of one of Renzo’s films, it says that it “is in many ways an experiment in audience participation. A number of scenes present the audience with tough choices about what should happen next. Regardless of the audience choices… the film always ends [the same way]. This interactive film thus makes fun of its own concept of interactivity.” And so on. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/37 "2024-08-02T03:09:48Z")
Then I should have been given the choice, only for it to be ignored in the end anyway 🙂 . ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/38 "2024-08-04T02:19:22Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Which ones? My main stuck puzzle was the safe with tetris shaped buttons. When I saw the solution, I groaned. I get it, but it was lame I just did that one today; got it fairly quick and was quite pleased with myself. But there are several others that I am stumped on. I’ve still only been able to activate one map (the basement). I played for a couple of hours and made some good progress today. Found a dead body and the crystal ball. I was excited to open up a shortcut door only to have it lead to two unopenable shortcut doors and nothing else. Lame. I’m definitely still enjoying it and my wife is occasionally popping in to help with a puzzle, which is nice. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/39 "2024-08-04T02:49:37Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > I just did that one today; got it fairly quick and was quite pleased with myself. But there are several others that I am stumped on. I’ve still only been able to activate one map (the basement). The map puzzles aren’t too bad. Think outside the box is the general idea on those. I’d consider them essential to get. Helped me visualize the hotel and it marks where you have been and what is in each room. They shouldn’t even have puzzles to unlock, to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868/40 "2024-08-05T00:26:10Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > The map puzzles aren’t too bad. Think outside the box is the general idea on those. As expected, I was missing something really obvious and stupid, so I’ve now opened 3 more documents tubes. I’ve found one more with a puzzle I haven’t yet been able to solve, but good progress on the maps today. I’ve also put together 4 (out of 5, I think) torn posters and reassembled them, and I’ve picked up enough messages to translate the runes on some of them into letters. I’ve got 3 letters so far. I’m definitely still stumped on several areas, but I’m not 100% stymied yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lorelei-and-the-laser-eyes-huge-recommendation-from-me/1004868.md?page=3)