# Lori Loughlin and husband plead guilty and get short prison stays

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**Created:** [May 21, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241 "2020-05-21T13:52:39Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/21 "2020-05-21T19:31:23Z")

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Lori spends less than a month in the can, if any time at all while the virus is still an issue. Her husband seems to be taking the fall on this one, hope she’s worth it. He’ll probably get out early or never serve also. These seem like light sentences for people who tried to play the system. I hope the judge makes them both provide a lengthy detailed allocution where they both admit they knew what they were doing was wrong so Lori can’t go out on the talk show circuit and say she only plead guilty to put and end to the process.

And yes, they have an ungrateful spoiled daughter or two. I wonder how they got that way after their parents gave them everything.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/22 "2020-05-21T19:34:27Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Coaches cannot admit students. What they can do is to ask that the requirements be lower for athletes and at big time schools that happens routinely. But there are cases where a top recruit is not admitted and has to go to his 2nd choice school. A guy may not get into UCLA and end up at Fresno St. . the schools not in the ACC,SEC,Big 12, Big 10 and Pac 12 typically are easier to get into. That would be Mountain West, American, CUSA , MAC, and similar conferences . They are still division I teams.

Ok but whether the coaches can actually admit students or just lobby for them with the admissions committee, my point still stands - the parents were paying the coaches, not the university, to get their kids admitted.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/23 "2020-05-21T19:36:58Z")

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the husband tried to make high end clothing line but it didn’t last so he ended up designing for Target for $27 mil deal and later sold the company.

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**Author:** ![Alex\_from\_CB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/278dde/32.png) [@Alex\_from\_CB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alex_from_CB)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/24 "2020-05-21T21:46:00Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> I think the main problem is the lying about them being athletes. The government says that is mail and wire fraud. If parents donate money and kids get in I don’t think that’s a crime. As you say that’s very common. I know of a family who were super big Clemson fans, their whole house was full of Clemson stuff. Their daughter did not get into to Clemson so the parents got real mad and got rid of all the Clemson stuff. Maybe they should have donated more.

Wait. You’re saying someone applied for admission to Clemson and did not get in? Really? The admission process at Clemson requires someone from The Admission Dept. to put a hand on the prospective student’s back and if it feels warm… admission.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/25 "2020-05-21T22:08:33Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> That’s the real issue. Tanya McDowell got five years for registering her kid in the wrong school district, but she’s poor and black and thus lives under different rules the plutocrats. That’s what people should be losing sleep over.

Didn’t that 5 years include two drug charges as well?

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/26 "2020-05-21T22:26:06Z")

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Lori’s sentence is harsher than Felicity Huffman. She was sentenced 2 weeks prison and served 11 days. But she got her plea deal early. Lori tried to fight the charges before accepting a plea.

> **[Felicity Huffman released from prison after serving 11 days for college...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/25/us/felicity-huffman-release/index.html)**
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> Actress Felicity Huffman was released Friday from a federal prison in Dublin, California, after serving 11 days of a two-week sentence for her role in the college admissions scam, according to the Bureau of Prisons. Huffman reported to federal prison...

IMHO the cost of this investigation and prosecution exceeded the seriousness of the crime. They probably spent millions and cost the defendants millions for giving a donation to get their kids into a nice college?

That money could have funded significant upgrades to the college. Several buildings at my college were named after rich patrons that gave the donation.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/27 "2020-05-21T23:02:20Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> IMHO the cost of this investigation and prosecution exceeded the seriousness of the crime. They probably spent millions and cost the defendants millions for giving a donation to get their kids into a nice college?

Bribing someone and committing fraud isn’t the same as donating.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/28 "2020-05-22T01:01:18Z")

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I am happy they are getting token prison time. It’s an equalizer and way to punish wealthy people is to give 'em a taste of jail. Allowing community hours and donations that is chump change is just validating they can write a check for whatever they want.

Keep in mind that this is a zero sum game. One kid gets in the side door, another kid that actually earned their way in lost an opportunity. This is not a victimless crime. And, if the Loughlin kids, with all their advantages of private schools, SAT prep classes, essay writing coaches, name recognition, ad nauseum, can’t get in on their merits, then ya think they shouldn’t go.

BTW, a good buddy of mine from grad school has 2 kids at USC. One shared a dorm with the Loughlin freshman. Said she had people escort her to her room instead of walking there alone since they were so “famous”. Thought she was totally entitled royalty and didn’t mix with the other dorm kids. No one shed a tear when she got kicked out of USC.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/29 "2020-05-22T01:17:17Z")

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a member of the Walton family graduated from USC but then it turned out she paid people to do her work so she gave her degree back.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/30 "2020-05-22T01:43:55Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> the husband tried to make high end clothing line but it didn’t last so he ended up designing for Target for $27 mil deal and later sold the company.

Mossimo was a big thing when I was a kid like 25-30 years ago. It was in all the skate/surf shops where cool kids went.

I just read the corporate history, much of which I was unaware. So basically, you are correct at describing the middle/transition of the company. For about 10 years it managed to be a growing casual clothing company. They faltered trying to go high end around 25 years ago. A few years later he did the target deal, then company was acquired in 2006. From 2006-2017 Target kept the line in stores, after Mr. Aunt Becky was out.

Not sure if I ever had a Mossimo shirt pre-target. Probably had a Stussy or 2. I was partial to Quicksilver and Billabong.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/31 "2020-05-22T02:00:29Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> IMHO the cost of this investigation and prosecution exceeded the seriousness of the crime. They probably spent millions and cost the defendants millions for giving a donation to get their kids into a nice college?

You’re right, it’s pointless to try to prosecute rich people. They shouldn’t have to follow the law.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/32 "2020-05-22T02:04:30Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> There are people who molest kids that don’t do prison time. That’s pretty amazing to me when these 2 are doing time.

Very recent:

- [Utah CEO gets 210 days in jail for having 13K files of infant & child rape, bestiality](https://kutv.com/news/local/utah-ceo-gets-210-days-in-jail-for-having-13k-files-of-infant-child-rape-bestiality)

So, this guy got barely more time than Loughlin and her husband.

To be sure, Loughlin and her husband deserve the time…but this is out-of-whack.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/33 "2020-05-22T02:07:02Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> IMHO the cost of this investigation and prosecution exceeded the seriousness of the crime. They probably spent millions and cost the defendants millions for giving a donation to get their kids into a nice college?
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> That money could have funded significant upgrades to the college. Several buildings at my college were named after rich patrons that gave the donation.

So your advice is to let criminals go because the money can be used better elsewhere?

Really?

Remember, you can’t just think of the cost of this one case. There was a criminal enterprise at work here. Stopping it is worthwhile.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/34 "2020-05-22T06:21:22Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Lori’s sentence is harsher than Felicity Huffman. She was sentenced 2 weeks prison and served 11 days. But she got her plea deal early. Lori tried to fight the charges before accepting a plea.  
> [https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/25/us/felicity-huffman-release/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/25/us/felicity-huffman-release/index.html)
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> IMHO the cost of this investigation and prosecution exceeded the seriousness of the crime. They probably spent millions and cost the defendants millions for giving a donation to get their kids into a nice college?
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> That money could have funded significant upgrades to the college. Several buildings at my college were named after rich patrons that gave the donation.

Didn’t bother to read the thread, huh?  
We need more rich people sent away for longer then they rip off the system and the people. Besides using a place taken from someone more deserving, this whole thing (and remember, it wasn’t just the two of them) gives the idea that the system is rigged.  
It would have been cheaper if she pleaded guilty at the start.  
But I especially like how she is a holier-than-though sanctimonious Christian \< bad word here \>.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/35 "2020-05-22T11:02:06Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> That’s the real issue. Tanya McDowell got five years for registering her kid in the wrong school district, but she’s poor and black and thus lives under different rules the plutocrats. That’s what people should be losing sleep over.

You’re comparing apples vs. oranges. McDowell’s plea agreement also included drug dealing and pandering charges. She also had a prior criminal record, including bank robbery.

> **[Did Tanya McDowell Get 5 Years, While Felicity Huffman Got 14 Days?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-felicity-huffman/)**
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> Memes comparing Tanya McDowell to various school-related criminal cases surface frequently.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/36 "2020-05-22T15:03:58Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Remember, you can’t just think of the cost of this one case. There was a criminal enterprise at work here. Stopping it is worthwhile.

Right – these are just the celebrity participants, it was a larger fraud ring and there were many more people and schools involved.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/37 "2020-05-22T15:26:47Z")

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> [@puddleglum](#):
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> Thank heaven, I can finally go to sleep in peace without those two hardened criminals on the loose.

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> IMHO the cost of this investigation and prosecution exceeded the seriousness of the crime. They probably spent millions and cost the defendants millions for giving a donation to get their kids into a nice college?

The guy running the show collected a total of $25,000,000 in bribes to get rich kids into nice colleges, bumping out truly eligible kids whose parents didn’t cheat and didn’t pay bribes.

These two were just two of the better-known bribers, and got relatively light sentences. Their activities have to be considered in the larger context of a ring designed to cheat the system and pay bribes to officials.

[MANDEL: Full House actress heading to big house with hubby](https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel-full-house-actress-heading-to-big-house-with-hubby)

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> Loughlin, 55, and Giannulli, 56, were arrested in March 2019 in connection with the largest college bribery scandal in American history that saw 53 people arrested for their roles in the scheme where ringmaster Rick Singer raked in **$25 million** by helping wealthy parents get their undeserving kids into prestigious schools.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/38 "2020-05-22T15:45:29Z")

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Singer was the biggest fish to catch in this conspiracy.

Some of the people cheated on the SAT’s. Getting scores changed and using someone to take the exams for the students.

Lori and her husband claimed their kids were on a rowing team and paid a bribe. Using athletics to gain admission is not nearly as bad as cheating on the college entrance exams. AFAIK Lori’s kids passed their exams without cheating.

Anyway, justice has been served. A message has been sent to other wealthy parents that are trying to get their kids into prestigious schools.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/39 "2020-05-22T16:03:52Z")

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> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#):
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> Mossimo was a big thing when I was a kid like 25-30 years ago. It was in all the skate/surf shops where cool kids went.

That just clicked for me as well. I had a ton of Mossimo stuff in high school as well. It was pretty popular with the snowboarding/skiing crowd.

Regarding the guilty plea, I heard at least one person (Trevor Noah?) mention that they may have plead guilty right now because, due to the virus, a lot of people are being released from prison. Perhaps they’re hoping to get it changed to house arrest.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lori-loughlin-and-husband-plead-guilty-and-get-short-prison-stays/854241/40 "2020-05-22T17:53:22Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> That’s the real issue. Tanya McDowell got five years for registering her kid in the wrong school district, but she’s poor and black and thus lives under different rules the plutocrats. That’s what people should be losing sleep over.

Sure McDowell was a drug dealer, a pimp, and a bank robber, but because of Loughlin’s actions some kid was forced to go to their safety school.

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