# Lost 1.10 "Raised by Another" (SPOILERS)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583 "2004-12-01T22:19:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/21 "2004-12-02T02:07:43Z")

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If anything happens to Charlie and Claire, I’m going to be very put out.

“Who the hell are Scott and Steve?!” Exactly, Hurley. Exactly.

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**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/22 "2004-12-02T02:08:15Z")

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> [@h.sapiens](#):
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> If Ethan was born on the island, Danielle has been there much longer than 16 years (like three times as long).
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> That was a shock, I must say.
> 
> No clue in the preview as to whose backstory we’ll get next week (if anybody’s).

Oh right… then maybe he was with the research team. Whatever.

I guess it’s still premature to call him alex though, we’ll see what happens.

At the end there, did anyone else think that Ethan/alex looked a bit like a…

…wait for it…

zombie? BRAAAAAINS!!!

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/23 "2004-12-02T02:09:04Z")

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Wow.  
So, I wasn’t expecting any of that.

Could Ethan be Danielle’s husband? I know she thinks she killed him, but if she’s a bit mad, who’s to say she really did. Unless he was also French - since this guy didn’t really have an accent (does he?). Drat.

Other **s** , eh?

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/24 "2004-12-02T02:11:29Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Yes he does: Rom.

Oh, yeah. I forgot.

That’s got to mean something, right? Read-only memory? Probably not.

Is there a famous philosopher named Rom?

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**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/25 "2004-12-02T02:11:37Z")

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> [@Achren](#):
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> Other **s** , eh?

Well being as how Daniel != Ethan, yes, Others.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/26 "2004-12-02T02:13:46Z")

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Well, yes…but I was thinking a whole groupful of others, not just one or two.

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**Author:** ![foxymoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d26b3c/32.png) [@foxymoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foxymoron)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/27 "2004-12-02T02:16:02Z")

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Oh, my _god_, that was a great episode!  
More! I want more!

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/28 "2004-12-02T02:20:09Z")

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> [@h.sapiens](#):
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> Oh, yeah. I forgot.
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> That’s got to mean something, right? Read-only memory? Probably not.
> 
> Is there a famous philosopher named Rom?

There’s a famous Spaceknight named Rom… 😃

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/29 "2004-12-02T02:20:19Z")

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I’m thinking Ethan F **rom** e as a possible reference…

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/30 "2004-12-02T02:21:16Z")

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WHOA!! Man, so much for Clair not being a main character. She’s like Ms. Pivotal now!

Man, talk about fleshing stuff out and then just giving us a curve out of nowhere…  
I saw the psychic tossing her to the lions as it were, but not the Ethan bit.

I love Charlie’s lines. “I did drugs, I can deliver a baby.”

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**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/31 "2004-12-02T02:22:21Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> I’m thinking Ethan F **rom** e as a possible reference…

From Wikipedia:

# Rom, a member of the Roma people (or Gypsy).

# ROM, an acronym for read only memory.

# ROM, an acronym for the Royal Ontario Museum.

# Rom, the name of a Ferengi from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

# Rom, a Galadorian spaceknight from the Marvel universe.

# Rom, the German and Swedish name for Rome, Italy

# Rom, a commune in the Deux-Sèvres département in France

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/32 "2004-12-02T02:22:27Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> I’m thinking Ethan F **rom** e as a possible reference…

Here’s a plot summary:  
Ethan was a young man taking care of his mother until she died. Ethan was afraid of being alone during that winter so he married his mother’s nurse Zeena, who was an older woman. They had planned to move to a big city and start a new life. Lack of fertile land and enough money prevented their dreams from coming true. Zeena became sick and Ethan realized he was never getting out of Starkfield. After a while, Zeena stopped complaining because Ethan stopped listening. Their house became silent and cold. All of that changed when Mattie, Zeena’s cousin comes to stay with them. She is a young, vibrant woman who brings life to the house. Ethan ends up falling in love with her. She offers the warm qualities of a relationship that Zeena never showed. Ethan does Mattie’s chores around the house for her and sneaks extra time with her. Ethan found a companion who showed interest in him. It was almost like a childhood crush. Zeena is very suspicious of their relationship. The last straw was when Mattie broke the pickle dish while Zeena was away. This was significant because the pickle dish had never been used because it was the nicest thing they owned. Zeena gets rid of Mattie with the excuse that she needs a new nurse and they can’t afford to keep both girls. Mattie has no place to go. Ethan stands up to Zeena and insists that he take her to the train. On the way to the train they stop to sleigh ride down a hill. After doing so, Mattie decides that they should commit suicide together that so they would never have to be alone. They attempt to commit suicide by sleighing into a tree. They are unsuccessful but both end up with permanent physical injuries. They end up all living together miserably with Zeena taking care of them.

Does any of this look like it could have anything to do with our current situation? Help?

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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/33 "2004-12-02T02:23:13Z")

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It took so long for Sayid to get back to the caves… do you think he was delayed by an encounter with the Others? What was wrong with his leg? Was it injured when he left the French woman’s hut? I forget half of the last episode already!

And Ethan might not be this “Alex”, either. Maybe he’s one of the Others himself. Why would he want to hurt the baby? Or take the baby?

Actually, I’m not sure if they (I’ll just use “they” to include her nighttime attacker and Ethan the weirdo alleged kidnapper, in case they’re 2 different people) want to _kill_ the baby or _take_ the baby. When she was first attacked, I thought it was someone slicing her open to get at the baby.

Notice how when Locke answered Hurley’s question about whether he found what he was looking for, he looked up into the distance, and said “it found me”? I think he’s talking about THE BEAST!

**Trion** , I thought that too about Ethan’s name… what would the significance be?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/34 "2004-12-02T02:23:51Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> WHOA!! Man, so much for Clair not being a main character. She’s like Ms. Pivotal now!
> 
> Man, talk about fleshing stuff out and then just giving us a curve out of nowhere…  
> I saw the psychic tossing her to the lions as it were, but not the Ethan bit.
> 
> I love Charlie’s lines. “I did drugs, I can deliver a baby.”

I think the line was “I KICKED drugs.”

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**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/35 "2004-12-02T02:25:08Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> WHOA!! Man, so much for Clair not being a main character. She’s like Ms. Pivotal now!
> 
> Man, talk about fleshing stuff out and then just giving us a curve out of nowhere…  
> I saw the psychic tossing her to the lions as it were, but not the Ethan bit.
> 
> I love Charlie’s lines. “I did drugs, I can deliver a baby.”

That would be “I **kicked** drugs”, as in he used to be a drug addict, and kicked the habit.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/36 "2004-12-02T02:25:29Z")

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> [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](#):
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> From Wikipedia:
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> ## ROM, an acronym for the Royal Ontario Museum.
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> # Rom, a commune in the Deux-Sèvres département in France

The first…he did say he was from Ontario, right?  
The second could, of course, tie him to Mad French Delenn.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/37 "2004-12-02T02:27:04Z")

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> [@Antigen](#):
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> It took so long for Sayid to get back to the caves… do you think he was delayed by an encounter with the Others? What was wrong with his leg? Was it injured when he left the French woman’s hut? I forget half of the last episode already!

He got impaled through the leg with a punji stick when he was caught in the Mad French Delenn’s trap last episode.

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**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/38 "2004-12-02T02:29:11Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> The first…he did say he was from Ontario, right?  
> The second could, of course, tie him to Mad French Delenn.

Either would make sense, though not int he same way you think. Aren’t there many french-speakers in Ontario?

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/39 "2004-12-02T02:29:31Z")

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So anyone want to spec on the whole “raised by another” aspect? The psychic acted as if her baby would turn out to be the anti-Christ if raised by anyone but her.

Hmm … maybe that is what he was seeing?

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-10-raised-by-another-spoilers/277583/40 "2004-12-02T02:30:04Z")

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> [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](#):
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> Either would make sense, though not int he same way you think. Aren’t there many french-speakers in Ontario?

I thought they were mostly in Quebec.

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