# Lost 1.14: "Special" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 19, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581 "2005-01-19T17:50:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/41 "2005-01-20T01:58:34Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > “[Michael] found his way back to you, Walt, once before. He will again.” Wasn’t he talking about Vince? ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/42 "2005-01-20T01:59:25Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > What was in the box at Walt’s school? **Trion?** That wasn’t his school. He was home with his nanny. > [@NoClueBoy](#): > > CGI polar bear. Why can we see its breath? Is it suddenly cold on the Island? Silly, the Lost bears breathe fire and can fly. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/43 "2005-01-20T01:59:35Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > I will wager that the bear/wolf (there wolf) attack will either be another illusion (Michael’s, not Walt’s), or the solution to the bear/wolf attack will be ludicrously simple… for the right person Not totally simple. But is was an easy enough fix. For the right person. Walt is a magic key, I’m sure of it now. Did he ‘cause’ the plane crash? We’ve now seen he has no conscious control of his ability. Maybe IT controls HIM. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/44 "2005-01-20T02:00:48Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > FINALLY! “MAybe that’s where they took her.” > > Claire is back! And no longer pregnant. Discuss after it airs on the Left Coast. Oh. my. gods. I didn’t even _notice_ that. _rewind rewind play_ Wait, are you sure? Anybody? I thought I saw the belly. ---
**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/45 "2005-01-20T02:02:48Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Walt (in flashback) fixates on a bird and a bird dies for him. Curiouser and curiouser. “Mind’s eye.” Walt has the power of making what he dreams come true. Apparantly, tho, he doesn’t know it and so has no control over it. Did Walt “create” the TCM? Brian was seriously afraid of Walt. “He’s different, somehow.” So, the Walt phenomenom transcends the Island. If he makes things happen, couldn’t he have brought the plane down because he didn’t want to go anywhere with this “new father”? He said “I’m not going anywhere with you”, when Michael said he was coming home with him. He wanted so badly not to go that he brought the plane down somehow. ---
**Author:** ![EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@EvilHamsterOnCrack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilHamsterOnCrack)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/46 "2005-01-20T02:03:27Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > “[Michael] found his way back to you, Walt, once before. He will again.” > > Ah, the box Q is answered. > > FINALLY! “MAybe that’s where they took her.” > > Claire is back! And no longer pregnant. Discuss after it airs on the Left Coast. No, he was talking about the dog, not michael. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/47 "2005-01-20T02:03:36Z")
> [@kung fu lola](#): > > Wasn’t he talking about Vince? Locke said “he.” Since he was addressing Walt in Michael’s presence, I made a conclusion. Could be wrong. Maybe a double entendre metaphor? Refering to dog but meaning Dad? Vince is the dog, right? ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/48 "2005-01-20T02:06:51Z")
A few little things: I think it’s rotten that you have to play golf if you want to compete for the last of the deodorant. Hurley got the impression that Michael hates being a father. At the time, I think he might have been right. Boone is completely under Locke’s spell, following him around like a sick puppy. Shannon put on her best hopeless sister act, and Boone couldn’t care less. He _really did_ let it go. When Locke and Boone heard something coming through the forest, I knew it wasn’t going to be Vincent. Or the TCM. Or the polar bear. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/49 "2005-01-20T02:10:03Z")
Also, when Locke was saying that about the dog, he was eye contacting Michael. Michael “found a way back” to Walt. He also found him this episode, just in time to save him. So, tho specifically referencing the dog, it’s pretty obvious to me he spaeking of the bigger picture, namely, Michael being brought back to Walt as his dad. Maybe Walt “arranged” it. Locke recognises that Walt is special, after all. The man rarely says things for no reason, it seems. ---
**Author:** ![look\_ninjas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@look\_ninjas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/look_ninjas)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/50 "2005-01-20T02:11:09Z")
I was kind of glad that next week’s episode was going to be a rerun of the Sayid backstory episode, since I hadn’t seen that. I was glad… until now. Stupid evil cliffhangers! Why must you make me wait? Why?? I’m still a little ambivalent on Locke, but I really liked the way he handled the Michael situation. I was kind of unnerved by how quickly Boone leapt to Locke’s defense, but the Great White Hunter himself did everything right. And, of course, now he has Michael and Walt on his side. The thing is that I like Locke. He’s a good person (and a great character), and I think he means well. But he’s also one with the island in a lot of ways, and I’m not sure that the island is essentially benign. Even if it’s not totally dark, it does have a dark side to it. Because I can’t trust the island, I can’t really trust Locke, even though I think he’s sincere in his intentions. Does that make sense to anyone else? That’s the great thing about this show. There’s room for interpretation and ambiguity and nuance. You can _think_ about it. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/51 "2005-01-20T02:14:04Z")
> [@look!ninjas](#): > > The thing is that I like Locke. He’s a good person (and a great character), and I think he means well. But he’s also one with the island in a lot of ways, and I’m not sure that the island is essentially benign. Even if it’s not totally dark, it does have a dark side to it. Because I can’t trust the island, I can’t really trust Locke, even though I think he’s sincere in his intentions. Does that make sense to anyone else? Ah, now _that_ is what I was trying to articulate in last week’s _Lost_ thread. THANK YOU for putting the words together. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/52 "2005-01-20T02:15:22Z")
YES! Apparantly the writers and producers are thinking, too. That’s what makes this show so much fun to watch. We can all think. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/53 "2005-01-20T02:17:59Z")
> [@Draelin](#): > > Oh. my. gods. I didn’t even _notice_ that. _rewind rewind play_ Wait, are you sure? Anybody? I thought I saw the belly. Pretty sure. I looked hard in that 12 seconds. But, I forgot to tape it, so I can’t go back to double check. Maybe after it’s thru airing, someone can answer for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/54 "2005-01-20T02:19:40Z")
So, how’s scarier, possibly psychotic (although he was back to helpful in this ep) shaman guy with the most compelling reason to never leave the island, or the omnipotent kid? That was a good thing you did, Walt. We got a look at the comic. I definitely saw Green Lantern (Kyle Rayner), and possibly the Flash. Anyone with stronger comic-fu have that ep? Could’ve been Justice League, Flash, or Green Lantern, mid-1990’s to 2003 or so. Micheal’s on Locke’s team now. He has a knife. Locke’s most vocal opposition has been placated. Nice to see Charlie put Sawyer down like he was the Witch-King of Angmar. Interesting to see that Locke went looking after the damn dog, not Claire. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/55 "2005-01-20T02:21:56Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Locke said “he.” Since he was addressing Walt in Michael’s presence, I made a conclusion. Could be wrong. Maybe a double entendre metaphor? Refering to dog but meaning Dad? > > Vince is the dog, right? I’m pretty sure he was talking about the dog. Right before that line, Walt was freaking out about Vincent (yep, that’s the dog) running off and right after the line, Locke and Boone are running around with the dog whistle that Locke made waaaaaay at the beginning. I knew that was Claire. As soon as it panned down to Locke’s slow motion, knife-wielding hand, I was all, “Claire!” Worst CGI polar bear ever. I wonder what happened to the dog. ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/56 "2005-01-20T02:22:54Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Bad timing on the hobbit comedy scene. Ug, yes. Who’s bad idea was that scene? (Maybe if it was a fourth as long, maybe it would’a been ok.) ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/57 "2005-01-20T02:24:06Z")
> [@Silver Fire](#): > > Worst CGI polar bear ever. I wonder what happened to the dog. Dog ate the bear. Now he’s the Bear King. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/58 "2005-01-20T02:25:43Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > Also, when Locke was saying that about the dog, he was eye contacting Michael. Michael “found a way back” to Walt. He also found him this episode, just in time to save him. So, tho specifically referencing the dog, it’s pretty obvious to me he spaeking of the bigger picture, namely, Michael being brought back to Walt as his dad. > > Maybe Walt “arranged” it. Locke recognises that Walt is special, after all. The man rarely says things for no reason, it seems. Repeating for the Second Pagers™ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/59 "2005-01-20T02:25:48Z")
I am loving our sussing-out of the whole “cult of the knife” thing. Is there another MB online where they are talking about this? I think it’s interesting that we think Jack is Locke’s opposition, and while Locke’s knives are weapons, Jack’s pre-island life as a surgeon involved using knives for healing. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581/60 "2005-01-20T02:26:05Z")
> [@NoClueBoy](#): > > What was in the box at Walt’s school? **Trion?** No, that was not me in the box. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/lost-1-14-special/285581.md?page=4)